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First police investigation of Supernova festival also found Israeli forces responsible for some deaths.

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[-] [email protected] 68 points 10 months ago

Doesn't change the fact they murdered people deliberately.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not saying they did or didn't, but we're still in fog of war territory. We know the 1200 include military personnel (who are pretty much fair game) and that there are many civilians who died to reckless IDF fire. Again, not saying they didn't, but that the whole thing needs more investigation.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I agree that an investigation is needed but Israel has been blowing up its credibility with every lie it tells and every civilian it has murdered. Who’s going to investigate and how are they going to be able to gather evidence?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I'm certain a lot of people who have investigated have been killed for doing so. 45 journalists lost in this 2 months of war.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it's real weird there's still no breakdown of IDF casualties and civilians.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Beautiful people just dancing and having a good time, many probably tripping, many rolling, everyone just there to experience joy.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

You act like Israel hasn't done the same, it's literally how they got their country.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Omfg it's not a dick measuring contest. You don't need a fucking asterisk when you want to say that massacring civilians is bad

I'm perpetually baffled by this whattaboutism. What the fuck you think anyone is going to say in response?

Like, "oh, shit, I GUESS IT WAS OK THEN"?

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

I have criticised Israel for many years. How they treat Palestinians is barbaric. How the west has supported them in doing this is also barbaric. But what happened on that day was the fault of Hamas, there is no excuses.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

More likely the fault of a zionist government that's been paying the same organization for years. You can't say the fault is solely Hamas when Israel created Hamas and let them thrive so long as they were hitting targets that were convenient to Israel.

I do find it funny everyone who's saying it's terrible that hamas is killing citizens while Israel is in the West Bank right now pushing out inhabitants with extreme violence ie. Killing citizens in a country they're occupying and destroying then economically.

These things aren't at all separable.

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago

Bravo Hamas, not knowing that the festival was taking place, and deciding to murder hundreds on the spot, real on your feet thinking /s

I somehow feel like that's even more despicable.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

It is, and it also makes all of their claims of not wanting to kill civilians drop in water. If the goal was to attack army base, then when they saw the festival they should have just moved around it, instead they decided to start shooting. At that point claims of not wanting to kill civilians just doesn't make sense anymore. It also shows they just wanted to kill without discrimination. They didn't care who gets killed as long as life was taken.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

It's because it is

"Don't blame us, we smelt blood on the air and our kill-instincts activated!"

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