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You'll be surprised by how many redditors you can convince to join lemmy by just mentioning Sync.
It's very effective. Understandably so; I've always browsed Reddit with Sync and it's probably the single best app I've ever used.
Here's a quick summary of Lemmy/kbin that mentions Sync and Artemis I find to be very effective to copy/paste to threads with confused redditors. I suggest others to do the same.
Upcoming Sync is why I'm here on lem in the first place....just had my 15th cakeday on reddit real bummer to see it go the same way digg did...
I've been using the Lemmy app and finding myself quite unhappy with it, but stopping to ask "Is this app actually deserving of my ire, or am I just grumpy because it's not what I'm used to (i.e. not Sync)?". I think it's mostly the latter. Don't get me wrong, Jerboa is nowhere near the level of polish or functionality of pretty much any of the main 3rd party Reddit apps (yet?), it's just that I'm a creature of habit (and so are many others)
Nah, I agree, Jerboa is just not there right now.
I prefer the webview over Jerboa on mobile at the moment; the higher flexibility outweighs the lower mobile-friendliness for me
I can definitely see it getting great though! With more contribution.
Edit: After using the new latest version of Jerboa (0.0.35), I think I do prefer it over the webview now.
For sure, we are still chronically starved of users. Need to play our cards right in the next few months.
In addition to OP's idea, all of us who still have our reddit accounts should be going over there and letting people know about Lemmy in a helpful way, like ASAP. It's really easy now because all the threads are about reddit sucking and how there is no alternative. But in a few weeks when reddit forgets, it's going to be viewed more as spam to constantly keep bringing up Lemmy on reddit.
If we can make people aware of Lemmy before the app shutdown, it's much more likely that they decide to actually try Sync for Lemmy.
all of us who still have our reddit accounts should be going over there and letting people know about Lemmy in a helpful way
Oh I've been trying to, hopefully got a few converts so far. Trying to tiptoe the line between informative and pushy since "horses water and drinking bla bla"
Yeah, good point. I just to go super enthusiastic and positive with it usually. The main problem is I don't feel like I'm getting enough eyes on my comments. The migration/alternative subreddits are weirdly quiet.
I just to go super enthusiastic and positive with it usually
Honestly the best way to pitch it IMO. It's been such a great experience here I almost feel compelled to proselytize the glory of the fediverse, but if I can't keep it in my pants a bit I'm certain to put people off the message.
The migration/alternative subreddits are weirdly quiet
I've noticed that too the few times I've checked. I wonder how many people there are still regularly tying to do outreach. I've had some luck on the selfhosted sub, of course you'd expect that lot would be more eager to jump on a self-hostable platform anyway. Piracy subs too for obvious reasons lol
Yeah, piracy has so much activity for obvious reasons. And they constantly get kicked out and stuff and piracy is an area that does require lot of self learning to do safely, so probably the most undeterred.
But, I follow lot of games, tech, and pc related stuff mainly and pretty much only sub that bothered to actually do anything was /r/privacyguides. Which is the instance I am on. So when these tech/pc/game subs you think would more embrace new tech aren't making any efforts to leave I think it's a sign most people including the mods don't actually care about leaving. They actually care way less than most non tech related subs.
Best way is just to express excitement that development of reddit app for Android is continuing on a different platform, since many people in /r/Android use third party apps probably due to the demographic that even bothers to subscribe to /r/Android to begin with. All other subs might be more casual users who use stuff like reddit redesigned and don't use adblockers, so this whole confusing cumbersome process is not something they care about. They just go API? What? Third party apps? Uh I don't use that I don't care. Ads? I'm used to it.
Apple is one that has nothing really that feels organic. There's no like hey Apollo for Lemmy is coming out. And Apollo is kind of the only app that Apple users even care about compared to Android where there's so many loved Reddit third party apps. Apple users are very used to subscriptions being sold on Apps too, so having to pay to remove ads and using official apps isn't as big of a concern.
Plus, I don't know that it even really matters going over to reddit to try to mention anything until the app comes out and it turns out to streamline the whole process of signing up and subscribing to different communities outside your instance as opposed to doing the weird [email protected] entry then wait for it to show up.
State of lemmy right now is something that people who weren't deterred by the research they had to do ended up using. Apps have an opportunity to make it so none of that is necessary, but until then there is no selling point. People who wanted to move have moved, and those that didn't stayed. Ones who are upset are shitposting, but I doubt they actually want to leave reddit since shitposting is also a sign they still want to stay on Reddit and wishing Reddit would roll back changes.
All good points, I largely agree. I still think it's important to spread the word on reddit right now and use our momentum.
I think the biggest obstacle is the mods. I think very few actually gave a serious thought to leaving reddit, and some using reddit to communicate to each other when reddit can read everything instead of moving to stuff like slack, matrix, or even discord was bizarre. It was like a union discussing plans while corporate is invited to sit in.
To me it is very apparent the mods don't want to leave reddit, and I wouldn't be surprised if many who are holding polls on whether to continue black oust or go back to operations are hoping redditors vote to reopen so they can save face and say it was a community decision and they had no choice and that they are remaining on reddit for the community. Like just looking at some mod profiles they are still contributing to subreddits that are functioning normally, so even their contributions indicate they want things back to normal since they are providing the type of content in line with what reddit wants.
And obviously the people left are people who just want to use reddit, so when mods don't give indications of wanting to move the remaining community with be very hostile. I feel like people who have made the decision to leave have had their commenting and contributions to the reddit site just drop significantly, and or completely left. So to me it seems difficult unless the mods get on board with actual alternatives.
Totally agree with all of this. They've been bowing down to reddit for so long they can't truly comprehend leaving. And reddit is fully aware of that fact, which is why they're not even pretending to negotiate.
You're spitting facts
I've noticed myself and others getting downvoted for mentioning lemmy. Other posts mentioning discord or whatever just get ignored.
I don't think it helps to go looking for arguments though. Some people will stay on Reddit. Some will leave. Que sera, sera.
I think grabbing more users right now is of utmost importance. If the fediverse needs to grow, now is the chance.
Mastodon had a big spike when Twitter went awol. And nows the chance for lemmy.
absolutely agree, get them here and make this community even more vibrant
Since we're only talking about a week timeline here, would it be possible to update the sync app with a list of popular Lemmy instances and a way to view your favorite one from a web view within the app? That way people could still use sync in the meantime while native features gradually get rolled out.
referencing users on Lemmy is not at all the same as reddit, since there are multiple instances.
there's no automagic function for it (at least not on the web there isn't - that's probably why you couldn't find one), you just have to do it by hand.
ie. [@[email protected]](http://lemmy.world/u/foreverwinter) becomes: @[email protected]
This is a great idea, smart recommendation
Imagine if it just seamlessly continued working after a short account signup and translated your Reddit subs to various Lemmy ones where it could.
That'd be magical, but isn't easily feasible.
I don't think it's a bad idea to say that Sync for Reddit is shutting down, if you would like to follow new projects by LJ, please click here for Patreon or here for Lemmy or something along those lines.
Honestly, I think it needs to be more aggressive than that, as bad as that may sound.
Something like:
"Reddit's new API policies has made it impossible for Sync for Reddit to continue.
Click here for Sync for Lemmy, an alternative to Reddit, instead. You will be notified when it is out in [estimated time for prototype]."
Would probably be more effective if the app remained the same, and you didn't need to download a separate Sync for Lemmy from the playstore; do we know which one's happening yet?
I wonder if this would even be legal though.
I would respectfully disagree.
The people who were susceptible to coming over to lemmy as it is are already here. Those who think its too complicated or whatever will stay on reddit.
I think the key to wider lemmy adoption is by focusing on the product, not so much the marketing. While it obviously helps for people to know about it, which many people now do, it doesn't matter if they come check it out and its a confusing ghost town.
Getting these apps out and filling the platform with communities and content is, I think, much more important than trying to drag people here kicking and screaming.
As the platform becomes better, the people will come.
I disagree the more people that know about it the better. My friend is an avid reddit user but uses the basic app and regular reddit (not old.reddit) and he never heard of lemmy.world until I told him yesterday. If people know about its existence they will know its an option. He is considering switching as well after telling him.
I don't think people will be dragged kicking and screaming. They've seen the turmoil with Reddit over the past few weeks and are looking for alternatives. This could be good education for them, especially as Lemmy is a bit more confusing compared to Reddit.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted (or at least mixed votes) for this. I appreciate you bringing diversity of thought to the argument and doing it in a constructive way. This is how we get the best possible outcome: by hearing, and actually contemplating, viewpoints different than our own.
Cheers.
Those fuckers
Funny thing is that I don't see this popup in sync.
It only happens when you access a reddit link from mobile without a default app to open reddit. They are trying to force the shite app on everyone, which is amusing b/c all it does is make me give LJ more energy
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It should just ask if you want to continue in [browser], but I think reddit flagged any posts about apps to have this popup/last ditch attempt.
PSA: get past it by clicking "desktop view".
That's the point. The mods are passing to NSFW because it's a pain to view such content on Reddit
Right?!
Could be a good idea for RiF and Apollo as well, even if they don't plan to build apps for the Fediverse.