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[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (19 children)

Ah yeah, an enlightened centrist meme, coming directly from the deranged minds that think trying to take the middle road when one the sides is blatantly against human rights is a moderate position.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Calling out Capitalists as the greatest evil, isnt the centerist take you think it is....

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is obviously a leftist meme making fun of liberal and conservative fighting. It's from the perspective of someone to the left of liberals, not between liberals and conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That makes more sense. I was wondering why they were both saying the same thing when typically you'd expect liberals and conservatives to be arguing. Those to the left of liberals see everyone as "liberal," as in free markets and whatever, not political left/right, or at least the hexbear folks do.

Took me a bit longer than I'd like to admit to get what they were going on about when everyone was called liberal lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Nah that's common to leftism in general.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This reads to me like a fairly leftist meme though, just more on the classical Marxist side.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It’s one of those memes that I can see from someone who thinks that the democrats are Marxists or from someone who gets really mad when you say that Marxism isn’t the end all be all of communism.

Either way, it comes with the failure to acknowledge that the culture war is one group trying to exist and the other being convinced to hurt them by the capitalist class.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Its from the perspective of the ruling class. It is their point of view being portrayed, not my own.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Where are you getting "Democrats are Marxists" from the image?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Nowhere... That's the fucking point lmao

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not incorrect though. If we're worried about the erosion of human rights, it distracts from the fact that corps own our government. Not that that means we shouldn't fight the erosion of human rights as well. That's the brain dead centrist take.

The problem is where you draw the line. It's a fucking shame to democrats that Nancy "insider trading is OK when I do it" Pelosi is still politically relevant, but what are we gonna do when the alternate choice is a fascist?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh I'll still be voting for the lesser of 2 evils dont get me wrong, i dont fuck with lemmygrad.ml at all anymore because they have deleted multiple comments ive made arguing for the necessity of voting for the lesser of 2 evils to protect the Prolitariat long enough for class conciousness to grow in America.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The genocide denial/celebration didn't turn you off of grad first?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Didnt see any genocide denial or celebration.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Maybe redrawn where purple hair is trying to get at the rich guy, and Red Hat is getting in the way

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, the rich seems to like the stuff the batshit insane right are spewing. Plus, they also benefit from those policies, like abortion bans, child labor law regressions, and of course tax cuts for those earning 6 figures at minimum.

America’s “left” is also not fighting these insane policies effectively. It’s like they’re pointing fingers at the GOP and going “Hey, that’s bad.”

But it’s never gonna get any better, it’ll only get worse from here - be happy with what you got.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

From the left perspective in the US it's basically the Democrats who are the "enlightened centrist" position, if not center-right, because they think capitalism is redeemable if it has the right branding etc, and success in the system is at least in theory available to everyone. The right faction are more honest in how they embrace and take joy in how this system runs on exploitation, and are obviously more dangerous in the current climate. The Democrats have to be dishonest because they have to take an inherently exploitative economic arrangement and give it a positive spin.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's a class war. It always has been. The 1 percenters use their control of the media to keep the poor and middle classes fighting with each other, so that they . . . the rich, can run off with all the f*cking money.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is unrealistic, they would never sympathize with us by using the word poor bastards.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (4 children)

He's just pointing out that they're broke.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Trying to oppress minorities harder is actively a part of class war though. This is like, marxism 101

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Minimizing human rights issues to further the cause for socioeconomic ones doesn't make you an enlightened anticapitalist, it makes you ideologically pro-CCP.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I just shit myself

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Reminded me of this piece from Michael Parenti:

Class gets its significance from the process of surplus extraction. The relationship between worker and owner is essentially an exploita­tive one, involving the constant transfer of wealth from those who labor (but do not own) to those who own (but do not labor). This is how some people get richer and richer without working, or with doing only a fraction of the work that enriches them, while others toil hard for an entire lifetime only to end up with little or nothing.

Those who occupy the higher circles of wealth and power are keenly aware of their own interests. While they sometimes seriously differ among themselves on specific issues, they exhibit an impres­sive cohesion when it comes to protecting the existing class system of corporate power, property, privilege, and profit. At the same time, they are careful to discourage public awareness of the class power they wield. They avoid the C-word, especially when used in reference to themselves as in "owning class;' "upper class;' or "moneyed class." And they like it least when the politically active elements of the owning class are called the "ruling class." The ruling class in this country has labored long to leave the impression that it does not exist, does not own the lion's share of just about everything, and does not exercise a vastly disproportionate influence over the affairs of the nation. Such precautions are them­selves symptomatic of an acute awareness of class interests.

Yet ruling class members are far from invisible. Their command positions in the corporate world, their control of international finance and industry, their ownership of the major media, and their influence over state power and the political process are all matters of public record- to some limited degree. While it would seem a sim­ple matter to apply the C-word to those who occupy the highest reaches of the C-world, the dominant class ideology dismisses any such application as a lapse into "conspiracy theory." The C-word is also taboo when applied to the millions who do the work of society for what are usually niggardly wages, the "working class," a term that is dismissed as Marxist jargon. And it is verboten to refer to the "exploiting and exploited classes;' for then one is talk­ing about the very essence of the capitalist system, the accumulation of corporate wealth at the expense of labor.

The C-word is an acceptable term when prefaced with the sooth­ing adjective "middle." Every politician, publicist, and pundit will rhapsodize about the middle class, the object of their heartfelt con­cern. The much admired and much pitied middle class is supposedly inhabited by virtuously self-sufficient people, free from the presumed profligacy of those who inhabit the lower rungs of soci­ety. By including almost everyone, "middle class" serves as a conve­niently amorphous concept that masks the exploitation and inequality of social relations. It is a class label that denies the actu­ality of class power.

The C-word is allowable when applied to one other group, the desperate lot who live on the lowest rung of society, who get the least of everything while being regularly blamed for their own victimiza­tion: the "underclass." References to the presumed deficiencies of underclass people are acceptable because they reinforce the existing social hierarchy and justify the unjust treatment accorded society's most vulnerable elements.

Seizing upon anything but class, leftists today have developed an array of identity groups centering around ethnic, gender, cultural, and life-style issues. These groups treat their respective grievances as something apart from class struggle, and have almost nothing to say about the increasingly harsh politico-economic class injustices perpe­trated against us all. Identity groups tend to emphasize their distinc­tiveness and their separateness from each other, thus fractionalizing the protest movement. To be sure, they have important contributions to make around issues that are particularly salient to them, issues often overlooked by others. But they also should not downplay their common interests, nor overlook the common class enemy they face. The forces that impose class injustice and economic exploitation are the same ones that propagate racism, sexism, militarism, ecological devastation, homophobia, xenophobia, and the like.

https://valleysunderground.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/blackshirts-and-reds-by-michael-parenti.pdf

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Damn Michael be spittin.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Those two people in the terrarium are exactly equivalent.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Yes to the ruling class they are.

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