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“I’m sorry — if you only want to work four hours, it’s going to be harder for you to get a house,” she said

What a joke. I spent the better part of the last three years working 70 hour weeks until I burned myself to a crisp. I'm much better off financially than many people my age, yet I am somehow still years away from homeownership and starting a family - if I ever can.

Maybe Whoopi should retire and let a millennial do her job for her pay. Not me; I don't think I'd be able to work as hard as her. 🙄

I wish famous people would just shut up if they're going to say stupid shit. I don't want her tainting my TNG rewatch.

I’d love for someone to just once elaborate on this.

What does it mean to work harder? More hours? Work harder at my current job?

Most people would not be allowed to work at their job for more hours due to overtime limits. Some jobs won’t let people work a second job.

If I work harder at my current job, what’s going to happen? Will they be grateful and just pay me more or will they create a position to promote me?

I don’t get what that means.

“Every generation is told, ‘You’re gonna do worse than your parents,’

What? The historical expectation is that every generation will be better off than the last. That hasn't held in recent years, which is a problem.

As someone who falls into this category, yes I have a mortgage, yes I have kids, yes it's insanely hard to juggle it all and keep your head above water... I have worked hard since 15 years old with only 2 times since having longer than 2 weeks off consecutively and I just turned 40. My job is fair, but can have long hours, on call, and work on weekends. The salary seems great, but where I live, plus being 2023 it just barely cuts it. As it is now I can get by, but my future for retirement looks pretty bleak right now. My wife has a decade old student loan that's $500 a month and interest has basically kept it there and I have no way to afford paying over that amount which even if I did would still take 10 more years to possibly pay it off so this loan is for life.

So stagnant wages, student loan debt, rising costs on everything, no programs to help middle class, and finally the need for services or certifications that appear to be needed more and more for everything which also takes your money. If I can barely get by I don't want to see how people less fortunate seem to do it... I honestly think about what if I didn't have kids probably weekly because it seems like the better decision for survival. It's messed up that you can do everything right yet still feel so close to failure at any given emergency. So screw her and her so called "hard life". People our age do deserve better and more needs to be done to help. You know how much of a difference it would make if we had free daycare like some other countries? That's just one thing and it would turn my life around tremendously. There is so much that can be done, but it never does.

Millennials are coming up on FORTY. We are starting to show up regularly in congress. We can run for president. We have survived multiple economic crises, the world falling apart around us, and have seen the ladders our forebears climbed pulled up behind them.

There aren't enough hours in the week to afford the American dream anymore. Every starter home is being bought by multi-nationals for far more then we have to rent back to us for far too much of our paycheck. That paycheck still hasn't gone up (despite our company having a banner year and giving massive bonuses to the chiefs) because we bought into the idea that our company is family when it turns out that family was the Donners and we're looking like a snack.

So eat a bag of dicks Whoopi.

According to the US debt clock the median salary 20 years ago was $32,086 and the median home price was $167,890. Today the median salary is $36,097 and the median home price is $426,973.

Whoopi needs to understand that there are several systemic things that are different now than when she was younger:

• Health Care is prohibitively expensive, especially for major issues. If you don't have a job with good insurance, and you have a major health emergency, that could ruin your finances for the duration. The good side to it is that we can treat a lot more things now; things that used to kill you are now survivable, even if it ruins your financial stability to do so.

• Education is similarly expensive. We told all these kids that going to college is the key to a good job, but everyone is doing it so at the end of it all they don't really have any advantage over their peers, but end up in tons of debt before they even start.

• Casual Spending is much higher now, particularly as people work longer hours to pay off that medical and student loan debt. When Whoopi was young, going out to eat was a super-expensive treat. You got dressed up for it and everything. And you needed to go to the bank first and get cash to pay for it. Now "eating out" means grabbing a Taco Bell between shifts, because you dont have time to cook, and it all goes on the credit card to pay later (or not). It all adds up, but it not nearly as glamorous as she thinks.

• The cost of living in an area has a lot to do with it. The Software Engineer who can work remotely can move from the Bay Area to almost everywhere else in the country and net more money after local expenses. But that schoolteacher in Palo Alto can't do their job remotely, and will never be able to buy a house there. They will need to rent until they retire, or move so far out they have to clog up the freeway for over an hour each way.

Nome of these things are the kids fault, and some of them are the current ownership class (from her generation) draining as much value out of young people as they can before they die off. We should start calling Boomers "The Vampire Generation".

The older generations have always seen the younger generations as lazy

“They think they know everything, and are always quite sure about it.”

“Our youth love luxury. They have bad manners and despise authority. They show disrespect for their elders and love to chatter instead of exercise. Young people are now tyrants, not the servants of their household. They no longer rise when their elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up food and terrorize their teachers.”
Rhetoric, Aristotle, 4th Century BC

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Whoopie doing this shit makes me more sad than other dipshit boomers. Growing up she was Guinan, a character on Star Trek TNG. She was unbelievably old and wise and gentle and kind and, honestly, had the best fucking hats. Every time she says something like this, or shat on Bernie, or whatever it is today, it drives home that it's all story telling, and makes it harder to believe in something better.

Has anyone else noticed how wild it is that in the service industry, despite the supposed crisis of shortstaffedness, things like McDonald's never have to close locations even temporarily? It was never easy to work at McDonald's yet all the workers pull through every single day with so fewer people to do it all. And they get less for it too. It's beyond me how people could see the current generations as anything but the hardest workers since god knows when.

Cmon, Whoopi a lot of us looked up to you.

Speaking from a USA perspective:

I'm 34. I guess that's right in the sweet spot of middle millennials. I've been hearing how lazy and entitled I am since as long as I can remember. Almost every single one of my generational colleagues have been some of the hardest working people I've ever encountered and yet some of the most underpaid.

Millennials on average are more educated, more trained, and more productive (in the sense that we are the largest generational labor pool in a labor environment that is roughly 70% more productive than the equivalent market when baby boomers were in their 30's) than their baby boomer equivalent.

To top things off, the average wealth gap between baby boomers and millennials has more than doubled since the 70's and we own less than 5% of all US wealth.

I'm not sure how less entitled we can get, relatively speaking? What I really ever wanted was a somewhat steady, fulfilling career with some meaning and a small little place of my own to eventually retire to. Maybe enough money that I didn't have to worry too much about bills, food, and rent all of the time. We were told that so long as we worked our ass off, did well in school, got multiple degrees and certifications, put our heads down and did the hard work that we could get that. Turns out: not really true.

Yeah Whoopy, I think you are totally on the money.

That is to say, you have too much money and you are totally out of touch.

Woopi Goldberg specializes in saying ignorant shit to try and stay relevant. She's just a shock jock. Stop falling for it.

This coming from somebody whose job is to just sit around and gossip with other women.

Just concede the point. Why should we work hard enough?

This from the woman who once-upon-a-time thought black people couldn't be actors in mainstream media?

She should reflect on how environment, upbringing, and socioeconomics can affect people.

The Republicans last night suggested raising the retirement age and blamed us for being lazy when we complain about not wanting to work an extra 3-5 years before collecting on social security and our retirement accounts.

Fuck these people.

man, the ultra rich really do live in an entirely different universe than the rest of us

Reminder that, in constant dollars, GDP per capita has tripled since 1960. That's right, we create three times the value that her generation did, we get less of it, and she has the nerve to say "Well if you only work 4 hours a day" when her job is having coffee with her lazy, rich entitled friends once a week. First up against the fucking wall.

I once thought that if i could ever make six figures, I'd be set for life. I could have anything i wanted. Now i make multiple times that number and i can still barely afford a house that's big enough for my family of 3. I'm house poor and an emergency could bankrupt me in an instant. I'm in the top like 0.1% of income earners. What the fuck?

If lazy means doing a full time job and two side hustles just to afford an overpriced home that you barely spend time in because you're always at work, then yeah, I'll admit it. You got me.

What an out-of-touch Boomer. Even many famous actors acknowledge they are extremely lucky. Without at least the tiniest dose of humility you become entitled. Which is whatever. But when you apply that standard to everyone, it's absolute nonsense. Not everyone had the money or connections to be set up for life. And not everyone should have the traditional "print money, afford any house and lifestyle you want" style career.

But they all deserve to have affordable housing, as well as healthcare. That's being empathetic and actually contributing something as a human being...

They say: "Work smarter, not harder."

Millennials went to college, got smarter, then went out into the workforce and saw all the inefficiency in its processes (this 4 hour meeting could have been an email!) and pointed out how to do things differently. The older generations, afraid of loosing power, labeled the different way of doing things "lazy", and labeled the millennials as such.

Yeah. And now look at how we’re all here bitching about this instead of planning an appetizer course for when we get hungry to eat some fattened rich fucks.

Keep licking that boot