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[-] [email protected] 165 points 10 months ago

Ad-free != Privacy

[-] [email protected] 129 points 10 months ago

Just because you're paying $10 a month does not mean that Meta will stop farming your data. Sure, they won't shove you any ads, but they will stockpile data for the day you decide that $10 (it's not really $10.. they will increase this price 2-3 years down the line once they feel they had gathered enough users, the Silicon Valley way) and then pump you with ads that cater you.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

Also I'm sure they will sell your data to whoever can pay for it.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

They don't directly sell data, nor does Google. They analyze and use that data to sell targeted ad space.

There are data brokers that gather a ton of data and openly sell it, but Facebook isn't one of them. Their customer data and the resulting ability to sell extremely specific ad space is probably their single most valuable; why would the sell it itself when they can sell the access it grants instead?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I think Meta very much wants to sell data.

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/facebook-to-pay-90-million-to-settle-data-privacy-lawsuit "Specifically, the plaintiffs’ alleged that Facebook used cookies and various plug-ins in order to track and save information about its users’ visits to third-party websites and then sold to advertisers."

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/privacy-and-data-security/facebook-in-payment-spat-over-725-million-privacy-settlement "Consumers sued Meta in 2018 after it became public that the British research firm had gained access to the data of at least 87 million Facebook users without their permission in connection with its work for Trump’s campaign."

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

They sell access to data (i.e., ads) - that is far more lucrative than selling the data itself. Only companies that are bad at tech just sell the data (credit card companies, retail, etc)

Cambridge Analytica was far more stupid - that was them just giving away data for free. Their old Facebook Apps APIs were wide open to collect whatever for free for anyone who would use your app (CA made those "do this fun quiz and invite your friends!" kind of FB games) and the APIs just said "we require you to delete this data when the user is done with the app" with no way to enforce it

[-] [email protected] 95 points 10 months ago

A pay-to-see-no-ads is not the same as pay-for-privacy.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

They do point out they won't use your personal info in ads if you pay, by choosing the free option you consent for personalized ads

[-] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago

Doesn't mean they won't collect your info anyways. What has Meta done to prove that they are worthy of our trust? Nothing.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

It pretty much makes it clear that they are absolutely going to continue collecting your data -- they just won't use it for ads. They wouldn't have needed to specify that otherwise.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

They won't use it to personalise their ads, they'll just sell it to their approved data vendors who all happen to be in the business of personalized ads.

This is paying to not think about a problem, not to solve the problem.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Like the personal ads is the only issue :')

[-] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago

That $10 won't give you any real privacy. They will still collect every bit they can about you.

The $10 will just not give you targeted ads. Most likely, they will still select things for you based on your profile and also sell information from that profile to the real customers.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Bingo. They don't give you targeted ads through their own platform, but the info is for sale for everyone else to do so.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago

No! It's actually free: Simply stop using Facebook!

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

You also need your family to not use Facebook (if they ever mention you they will collect that information)

[-] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

Guarantee you pay $10 and your privacy still isn't protected.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Not getting killed by online mob == free lunch

What do they always say about free lunches?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Considering their ceo is Jewish and Nazis still congregate on there, probably not

[-] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

Buts it’s probably not gonna give you any privacy, they’re still harvesting and selling your data, you just don’t see the ads on meta platforms.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

This is to appease regulators, it is not a viable solution for their users.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Regulators that seems to have already unformally shoot down the proposal given that it seems to be against the GDPR.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So much for the

"It's free and always will be"

I can never understand how selling one's information isn't considered a form of payment.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

well thats mark zuckerburg for you, but even then your data is still gonna be sold ig

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Oh in Europe only. Not in the US. The news article should have specified that in the title

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Nah, American news also fail to specify "only in the US" every time. So it's kind of refreshing to see the tables flipped for once.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

This paymemt does not even stop their crappy 'recommended for you' suggested content on user's wall, which is even more annoying than the ads.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Sure, I'll pay that - as soon as they pay me $15 per month for the data they're stealing from me.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

"It's free and always will be"

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, not paying even if it's 9.99€

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I'd take it at €5 if I used Instagram a lot. The current asking price is too high though, almost like the data is worth so much to them that they put the price tag high enough that it's unreasonable.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I’ll give them a one time payment of $10 to fuck off

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