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i am curious to see what kinds of leftists are here on lemmy

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tend to fall on the anarchist side of things... though not fully - I think anarchists do have their own problems with orthodox "leftist" ways of thinking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My belief system is very unorthodox, it would displease most ideological purists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I consider myself a progressive: our political systems should work to improve the human condition over the long term, informed by scientific and moral progress tempered by humility.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of my friends is an Anarcho-Syndicalist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Now you have two Anarcho-Syndicalist friends. 😁

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I just want want universal healthcare, or council communism. Whichever comes first.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I honestly don't know how to label myself, all I know is I'm "left of center" as far as the US goes. I might not even be a "true" leftist. I know I'm not a neoliberal though that's for sure...

I know that in general human nature leads the worst actors to positions of real power so I've never believed that the far end of the spectrum could ever work, but I also know for the same reason the "middle road" so-called centrist position in the US is just conservativism "lite." I won't even touch on the "right/conservativism" as that isn't the question and it's basically monarchy & hierarchy worship.

I think people in general aren't educated enough and are too apathetic to care about the "big picture" and mostly care about what happens in their own life in their own communities so decisions made in respect to what happens on a large scale for an entire country are left to manipulative actors swaying those that don't care to truly understand any particular situation which makes any difficult process of transitioning to a more "leftist" government infinitely more dubious.

I like the idea of worker co-ops as far as labor and "market" is concerned. I don't believe that states can properly attend to the luxury desires of any given population, I think the "greed incentive" of individuals works there. People want a thing and you want money so you make the thing, but I believe governance has a role in ensuring those lead by the greed incentive are kept in check. That leads back to the "worst actors" seeking positions of power and that power is required to keep the greedy in check so I really don't know the ideal way to handle that. The worker co-ops should keep the CEO wrecking a company long term for their short term gain and golden parachute exit out of the equation at least.

As far as anything about equality goes, I think it's stupid that it's even a question. We are all humans living on a ball of rock shooting through the galaxy, we are in the same boat and deserve the same treatment/opportunities as anyone else. Those with a "leg up" monetarily have an "unfair" advantage, but the solution to leveling the playing field is far above my pay grade to know.

I haven't gone into any "deep dives" of the "flavors" of leftism which is probably why I don't know what I am considered, but I'm not sure it matters either as I know to a degree what I believe works or doesn't, I don't think I need a lable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is a very thoughtful comment, thank you. also i agree with much of what you said.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks! I didn't think I'd spend my lunch break considering leftism, but it was an interesting question lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i hope this community continues to interesting for you.

edit, oops, I said "subreddit" instead of community, I guess its quite obvious that i am a reddit-exile.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Libertarian Socialist and generally anti-fascist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

post-anarcho-communist

aka doomer

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Posties just seem aimless, and without sound theory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My theory is sound. I just ran out of hope that we can do anything but brace for impact. This has affected how I go about acting and organizing, hence the self-applied "post" label. But I know what you mean.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So just doomerism?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh, ok... im sorry about that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i have proudly read many.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll be honest, don't know how to answer that question but I'd like to be able to. I have a lot of the same beliefs as other people who say they're leftist but sometimes the one or two conservative-ish viewpoints I have bring me into conflict with leftists. Not by my choice, just in my experience some people can't deal if you aren't 100% in lockstep with them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What even are leftists without infighting?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True that, but there's a difference between debate and disagreement, and unhealthy infighting. and fighting with tankies is not infighting, because they are a threat to the values of the left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, I was mostly being sarcastic.

In all seriousness, a lot of people on the left think very critically about their beliefs and struggle with accepting others after becoming so thoroughly dedicated to their own. This is something we need to overcome for trivial things, for sure.

But, as you said, tankies are a threat. They call for unity to simply to gather forces to oppress others until they can turn and oppress the same leftists they called to for unity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

you are right on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Kinda Juche without the great man stuff, agri-socialism I guess?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nobody can seriously be a jucheist in this day and age...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An entire country disagrees with you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we have no real idea of what the north korean populace believes, due to the levels of isolation, but worship of their monarch is very likely a significant part of it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should join the Korean Friendship Association https://korea-dpr.com/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you cant be fucking kidding me...

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like you believe capitalist propaganda friend. And judging from the downvotes I am receiving, this community is probaby too center for me. I wish you all the best in your journey.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Juche is not leftists, its monarchist.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a socialist democracy, literally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

its a totalitarian monarchy.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Says american propaganda. Have you ever talked to a North Korean?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I dont think i would be able to talk to a north korean who was not a government mouthpiece, either for the USA, or NK.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting, what is it about?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

its a crisis theory, developed by german left wingers in the 90ties, as a result of the colapse of the Soviet Union. Here, some translations into english: https://exitinenglish.com/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

interesting