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‘Deeply sinister’: Police testing women who have miscarriages for abortion drugs
(www.independent.co.uk)
I had no idea it was this bad in the UK. Fucking hell.
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Well fuck. Before I saw the URL I assumed this was the US...
Give it a year...
There are already some southern states that will test and prosecute for miscarriages, especially if they suspect drug use is involved.
Brittney Poolaw in Oklahoma was the most recent publicized case of this, but at least 1200 cases have been recorded in the past 20 years or so.
But, now that so many states are banning abortions, and by way of that abortion drugs, we'll absolutely see a huge uptick soon enough.
Texas and others are trying to ban traveling for it too
Norsefire was supposed to be satire goddammit. Satire!
Right-wing political philosophy is becoming so authoritarian that we're really harassing people who just lost their pregnancy, treating them like criminals until proven otherwise.
Woman must be punished! Sexual impurity cannot be tolerated. How else will we control them and make them subservient.
Cops trying to further victimize victims anytime they get the chance.
Did something bad happen to you? Don't fucking tell the cops and don't seek any help because people are awful and want to make you as miserable as possible whenever they can. That's the unfortunate reality we live in.
And we wonder why noone wants to have kids....
Welcome to how Black people feel forever
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Trust me when I say police should have absolutely nothing to do with anything healthcare related. They shouldn’t be making decisions about bodily autonomy. They shouldn’t be ordering blood work. None of it. Stay in your Fucking lane.
If you want to be a doctor go to medical school.
The only thing in my opinion that should allow on duty police in should be to guard high risk patients/At the entry as security.
I was about to get really mad and rant about Republicans then I saw the .UK,
This stuff isn't just American insanity it's everywhere? Why does this world get worse in my eyes every day..
Because politicians and the media figured out that the easiest way to get people to watch/vote was to appeal to their most basic hatreds and fears, and to even create new ones. Essentially imagine human manipulation as a game, and the game has been solved already. Now this can be countered by teaching people how to actually think for themselves and form their own opinions, but we constantly try and reduce access to education in the world. Were kind of just fucked until the aftermath of WW3 imo.
it’s everywhere?
It's not in South Africa - abortion hasn't been politicized... yet. So that is nice. But, on the other hand, we are being privatized and deregulated into oblivion - which isn't.
I'm sorry to hear that, hope the whole world can grow up one day.
Stress from climate collapse is making people pick at old wounds to feel better, that's all.
Confiscating their phones and testing their bodily fluids... to try and jail them for something they did with their own body. Sick fucks
Keep in mind not every lost pregnancy is a choice. They are also trying to jail some of them for a personal tragedy they experienced. You have a spontaneous miscarriage and the doctor prescribes misoprostol to help with the process, then some asshat tries to throw you in jail because Jebus told him to.
My wife had a spontaneous abortion at week 11, we went for the second scan they found no heart beat and they sent us home... what happened in the following hours was fucking horrendous. I couldn't imagine after that some copper wanting to come around for a blood test and to seize her phone, honestly my reaction would probably get me arrested.
honestly my reaction would probably get me arrested.
My 2024 bingo card has "cop beong shot by distraught husband" on it, and I'm really surprised it doesn't happen a lot more. There was a shooting at a doctor's office in Tulsa that was sort of the same thing.
Shootings are bad. Nobody argues that. That's why we shouldn't be giving people a reason. But noooo, women having sex makes baby jeeezuz cry.
Yes, the point to expansively criminalizing this sort of thing is that they then get to prosecute who they want, at their discretion. The lesson is always 'know your place' and it's why these ghouls should never have power
Fascism is spreading across the world.
Is abortion illegal in the UK? I know they have some things backwards, but I thought the US led the world on the insanity of divide on this particular topic.
Am I missing something?
Abortions are still deemed a criminal act in England, Scotland and Wales under the 1967 Abortion Act.
The Abortion Act 1967 is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that legalised abortion in Great Britian on certain grounds by registered practitioners, and regulated the tax-paid provision of such medical practices through the National Health Service (NHS)
The key word there is it’s legalized on certain grounds and by registered practitioners.
So there’s probably a time frame when it’s allowed, or a preceding incident like rape or incest, and it can only be performed by a registered physician.
Under a law like the, it would still be a crime to use medications to induce a miscarriage of your own desire.
It’s all bullshit, but the UK has a lot of things where is technically legal to do something, as long as you’re willing to submit yourself to close government scrutiny.
No one was ordering their own abortifacients online in 1967, the rules were to outlaw "backstreet" abortions.
I don't know what the limit is, but yeah there's a cut-off for when a pregnancy can be terminated without medical necessity. When there is medically necessary it can be performed later.
Either way the procedure is available for free on the NHS.
While I think the rules are sound, you'd think the police would have learned from the disgraceful treatment of the mothers who were prosecuted - and subsequently had those convictions quashed - due to SIDS
Of course there's a timeframe or circumstances, they are writing as if it's illegal, which it isn't.
Yes...the rest of the article where they explain, in fair detail, the points that you're not understanding, or... missing.
Awe you mean to tell me all of the detail isnt in the headline and i have to read the entire thing?
Yeah thanks, I read it, hence why I quoted from it.
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