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submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

I just got my home server up and running and was wondering what you guys recommend for backups. I figure it will probably be worth having backups on cloud servers tjay are external, are there any good services yall use for that?

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Borgbase with Borgmatic (Borg) as the Software. As far as I know the whole Borgbase Service is from a Homelab guy (with our needs in mind).

Also 3-2-1 rule!

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Also team borgmatic here. ;)

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Regardless of service, if you don't test your backups, you have none.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Ehhh I would say then you have probabilistic backups. There's some percent chance they're okay, and some percent chance they're useless. (And maybe some percent chance they're in between those extremes.) With the odds probably not in your favor. 😄

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not so much about testing, but one time I really needed to get to my backups I lost password to the repository (I'm using restic). Luckily a copy of it was stored in bitwarden, but until I remembered it, were perhaps one of the worst moments.

Needless to say, please test backups and store secrets in more then one place.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I have an unraid server which hosts an docker image of Duplicacy. It is paid though for the web interface. And it backs up to Backblaze B2. I have roughly 175GB backed up, for which I pay $0.87 a month.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is almost my exact backup workflow, with another location in between. Duplicacy is great, highly recommend.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

rsync.net is great if you need something simple and cheap. Backblaze B2 is also decent, but does have the typical download and API usage cost.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I had never heard of rsync.net until now. I like the idea but it seems more expensive than B2. $15/TB vs $5/TB. Am I doing the math wrong or reading it wrong?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I've never heard of it either, but I came to the same conclusion as you

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't see it on their website right now, but they offer a discount if you're using something like restic/borg and only need scp/sftp access. Their support is also super friendly. I've had an account forever and got moved to the 100+ TB pricing even though I have < 50TB stored. YMMV but it doesn't hurt to ask if they have any additional discounts.

Also keep in mind that B2 charges for bandwidth too. It's $5/TB for storage, but $10/TB to download that same data.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sure but backup is mostly data in (free on B2). Data out is rare, if ever.

If i wasn’t backing up 12TB+ I would actually go with rsync for the features though.

Borgbase looks interesting, too.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

When I researched what to use for my backup I found rsync.net. They have some nice features nobody else seems to support, like they support ZFS send/receive https://www.rsync.net/products/zfsintro.html

But in the end the price made me go with borgbase.com

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Backblaze b2, borgbase.com. There are also programs like dejadup that will let you backup to popular cloud drives. The alternatives are limitless.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I use restic to backup my raspberry Pi's to my Synology NAS and backup my NAS to backblaze.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Restic or Kopia, both to Backblaze.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I second restic. Have been using it for a year now and have been generally very happy. Actually had to use it in a couple occasions to restore directory content and even recover a complete workstation drive. I have had relatively easy success in both scenarios.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

As dumb/simple/boring as this may be...? An external hard drive.

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....what? It doesn't require you to be online 24/7, works at any(tm) PC, and the speed is really great -- even on a potato.

Unless you work at NASA or at IBM or similars -- then feel free to call me dum.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That is great for hardware failures, but what about disasters? I would hate to lose my house to a fire and all the data (including things not replaceable, like family photos) I have on my server at the same time because my primary and backup were both destroyed.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

borg with an external hard drive and borgbase as a remote. I use the 2-2-1 rule (🙈), as I struggle to find a good way to do another backup and RAID does not count 😬

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

rsync.net and learn to use Borg; they're stupid cheap if you're technically proficient enough to handle the Borg setup yourself. Like, charge by the gigabyte, but it's 1.5¢/GB at the most expensive, and cheaper in bulk

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Backups and archived files go to my home server which then backups to backblaze b2.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Tears... Natural, salty, wet tears...

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I use SyncThing to backup our cell phones to my on-prem server, and then use BackBlaze Personal Backup for a cloud copy.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
  • restic > backblaze b2, nightly & automatic
  • restic > normally unplugged drive, every couple weeks (manual, recurring reminder)
[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Veeam backup and replication at home and at work. At home a copy goes to a NAS, another copy goes to backblaze b2 currently.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

External HDD in my wifi network. It runs Samba. I can just drag and drop folders and it transfers over wifi.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Backblaze B2 for automatic syncing of all the little files

Glacier for long term archiving of old big files that never change

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use wasabi s3, I back up to that using restic.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I use Duplicati connected to Storj with data volumes that incrementally get backed up once per month. My files don't change very often, so monthly is a good balance. Not counting my Jellyfin library, those backups are around 1 TB. With the Jellyfin library, almost 15 TB.

Earlier this year, I recovered from a 100% data loss scenario, as I didn't (and still don't) have space for physical backups. I have a 25 TB allowance, so my actual cost was €0. If I had to pay, it would have been under €1.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Do you mean 25TB as the storj site says 25gb? Did some promotion give you that much free?

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Duplicati to Backblaze B2 for the important stuff. For as far as the media library goes, no backup just local raid setup...

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I used to have everything backed up to a 2TB USB drive. Which I accidentally dropped down the stairs. I lost thousands of family photos and documents. That changed my backup perspective.

I now have a Synology NAS, with 12TB in a RAID5 array (for a bit of disk redundancy). All my home devices, Proxmox servers etc back up here. The NAS also holds a few TB of media. Attached to it I have a USB hard drive (also 12TB). The NAS gets fully backed up to the USB drive nightly.

I also have a remote Raspberry Pi with a smaller USB drive (4TB) attached to it at my brother's house (in another country), where I backup most of the contents of my home NAS. I don't back up the media, just the important stuff. I might have to upgrade to a larger drive...

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I used to have everything backed up to a 2TB USB drive. Which I accidentally dropped down the stairs. I lost thousands of family photos and documents. That changed my backup perspective.

If it's the only copy, it's not a backup. It's the master.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Duplicati, to a friend's home server who lives in another town.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I hate to ask the scary question, but have you tried to restore your backups before? I used Duplicati and discovered that none of my backups were usable and ended up switching to Duplicacy.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

+1 for Duplicacy. It just works, truly does. Duplicati on the other hand seems to work, but has a tendency to fail on restore, just as you described.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

To back up my Synology: My first level is an old Synology, the second is Amazon Glacier.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Git Annex.

Took me a while to wrap my head around it, but nothing comes close to it once you set it up.

Edit: should have read the post more carefully, I use Git Annex both locally and on a VPS I rent from openbsd.amsterdam for off-site backups.

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