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    submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
     
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    [–] [email protected] 171 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu Kylin, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Studio, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Mythbuntu.

    [–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)
    [–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    And the best of all... Uwuntu

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    still the best os/distro of all time is hanah montana os

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

    It's Hannah you unwashed pleb!

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    [–] [email protected] 149 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Linux users really are like vegetarians/vegans - they want you to join them and when you do, then they judge you for not being vegetarian/vegan enough

    [–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior, CrossFit?

    [–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago

    A vegan, a Linux user, and a 'pol sci major' walk into a bar. They are the same person. Oh dear, they won't shut up. There is no god here now. I think my ears have started to bleed. Run...

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I wish to believe it's just the loud 1% with both.

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'll have you know my friend has a pal who uses arch

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    [–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Tbh, I don't really get the hate that Ubuntu gets.

    I mean, I do understand that people don't like some of the decisions made with Ubuntu (e.g. snap), but especially for people who don't use an OS for the sake of using that OS and just want to use their PC to get stuff done, Ubuntu/Kubuntu are quite good.

    You have a mostly consistent UI that can do most important configs without touching CLI. Manuals and simple guides are easy to find, even in other languages than English (which is important for quite a big number of people outside the US).

    And contrary to some other, smaller distros, Ubuntu isn't run by just 1-2 people and you can trust in it still existing in 10 years. (Obviously, this is true for many other distros, but some quite widly used distros are run just by a tiny team of hobbyists)

    I mean, I'd get the reaction if someone claimed they are Linux users because they use Android (though with enough knowledge you can also get a full Linux distro running on Android in chroot).

    [–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    "Use Snaps"
    "No" (installs .deb)
    "Fuck you, use Snaps"
    (The Snap Store is a proprietary closed-source black-box that updates your snaps without asking and every part of this statement was a deliberate planned feature by Canonical)

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I mentioned this in the comment you answered to. But as I said, this might be an issue for people that use Linux because they really hate anything that isn't GPL, but 97% of the people on this planet care more about whether something is simple to use than what license it uses, as evidenced by the market share of Windows, Android, Chromebooks and Apple products.

    Wouldn't it be better to get some of them to use Ubuntu with snaps than to stay on their proprietary platforms, because packet management sucks and conflicts are basically impossible to solve for someone who's not a software developer?

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Linus swore that Bitkeeper wouldn't alter the agreement further, like a mad egotistical movie villain.
    Canonical is very clearly funneling their userbase towards a Snap-only environment (something that already exists as an option).
    As the sole keyholders, and as a for-profit business, what is the next step?

    Is it to maintain a wealth of options, even when that cuts into profit margins? What about when those options are competing products (think Gnome and KDE back in the Unity days)?
    These things just do not make sense from a business perspective, and they will not be necessary once their userbase is locked into the Snap walled garden.

    As to your point about licenses and market share, default non-options and limited choices aren't compatible with conversations about choice.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    The Snap Store is a proprietary closed-source black-box

    Every part of the snap store running on your computer is open source.

    that updates your snaps without asking

    If you don't want your snaps auto-updating, turn auto updates off. snap --help

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

    I looked into it. You're right.
    They implemented the ability to permanently hold all automatic updates.
    After five years of debate during which they consistently claimed that the whole point of Snaps is that developers can push whatever, whenever.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I think they get hate because Canonical is a commercial entity.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I really don't like that sentiment though. Software development isn't for free just because you slap GPL on it. These devs need to be paid somehow if they are supposed to do more than 3h/week.

    You can also see the same thing in the Linux kernel. Many Kernel devs are employed by Microsoft, Google, the NSA and many other commercial entities.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I love the idea of developers getting paid. Let's do more of that.

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

    Yeah I quit Ubuntu after 12 years but I still recommend it for people trying to change OS ..it's great OS

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    [–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Tubuntu, Hubuntu, Dubuntu, Pubuntu, Vuduntu, Jubuntu.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

    Ubuntu, Ubuntree, Ubunfur, Ubunfi, Ubunsi, Ubunsenn, Ubunnet, Ubu-9, Ubuten, Ubuntulovin, Ubuntwelve

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

    That doesn't sound right but I don't know enough about Ubuntu off-shoots to dispute it.

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    [–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Debian. There is only debian.

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    [–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

    Off the top of my head:

    • Ubuntu
    • Mint
    • MX
    • Debian
    • Devuan
    • Pop!_OS
    • Zorin
    • Kali
    • Fedora
    • Red Hat
    • CentOS
    • OpenSUSE
    • Rocky
    • Alma
    • Arch
    • Blackarch
    • Parrot
    • Manjaro
    • EndeavorOS
    • Garuda
    • Gentoo
    • Alpine
    • Puppy
    • Tinycore
    • PostmarketOS
    • Tails
    • Slackware
    • LFS (sort of)
    • Yocto (sort of)
    • Raspbian
    • Raspberry Pi OS
    [–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I never forget Glorious Leader^TM OS

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

    Hannah Montana!

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    [–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Now name 10 distros that aren't based on each other. And yes I'm counting the *buntus as being based on Debian.

    If you look at the famous lineage graph there's a fill out there but barely any reinvention of the wheel (not that that's a bad thing).

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    Arch, Fedora(Red Hat), Debian, Linux from scratch, Suse.

    Goddammit!! That's harder than I thought it would be. Then again I'm a relatively new Linux user, I've only used it since 2005. 😋

    Edit:
    Arh stupid me forgot an obvious one, Gentoo.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Without looking at timeline linked above:

    • NixOS
    • Slackware

    We still have 2 missing...

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    [–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hannah Montana Linux!

    Its not what we deserve, but Its all what we need.

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    [–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I think this is the wrong meme.

    The Brooklyn 99 meme of "that was my fault" would have been much more apt.

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    [–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    That's on me, I set the bar too low

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    [–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Fuck snap. I quit Ubuntu after using it more than any other distro since 6.04. Debian 12 has been awesome.

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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    Ubuntu with KDE = Kubuntu

    Ubuntu with LXDE/LXQT = Lubuntu

    Ubuntu with XFCE = Xubuntu

    Ubuntu with Gnome ... Where is Gubuntu?

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

    It's a silent G

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

    The best jokes make you a little bit angry while also making you laugh

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Let's see... Off the top of my head: Debian, Ubuntu, yiffOS, Arch, Gentoo, Red Hat, OpenSUSE, Mint, Fedora, Tiny Linux, Mandriva, CrunchBang, Raspbian.

    Also I'm a windows user c:

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

    TIL about yiffOS lmfao

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Fedora, Redhat, Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo, Linux mint, Arch, Suse, Slackware, Centos, Manjaro, Scientific linux, Pinguy os, Sabayon, Linux from scratch, Puppy linux

    Do I get a prize?

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
    • Raspi
    • Hanna Montana
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