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It really depends on if you mean liberal establishment, or the ordinary level of liberalism that exists in all members of our society, of which most politically uneducated people are going to be "libs" perjoratively, but not libs generally. At some point or another, the majority does have to be engaged. :/
The establishment (the state?) is super fucking annoying and smug and seems to be unable to reckon with any critique. I've noticed they only respond to people who insult them with "ah, an ad hominem I see" and never the longer more conversational/academic responses.