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Trans youth will no longer be prescribed puberty blockers, NHS England says
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Time to start some really large clinical trials.
Which wouldn't be a bad idea anyway, tracking long-term outcomes.
GnRH was discovered in 1971, and has been available since the '80s. We have a pretty good idea of their long term effects. There could be more about effects on transgender youth in particular, but everything done so far shows it's safe.
I'm reading about migraines, joint pain, hot flashes/sweating, decreased libido (which I would expect to take place during treatment) persisting for months after discontinuing use of GnRH. I'm also reading that it can worsen diabetes and osteoporosis?
Idk, to say that it's without risk is false I think.
Safe does not mean no side effects. Those first things would still absolutely qualify it as safe. Those last two you mention seem to be inconclusive by the way you worded it.
I word it this way because I'm not an expert, I was reading through a few studies I found on Google and am no way qualified to weigh in on this beyond a cursory glance.
That being said, I've heard migraines be described similarly to torture. We can agree to disagree as to whether or not that's safe (the effects of chronic pain are well documented).
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The abstract from this https://www.eurekaselect.com/article/112477
There are certainly other factors to consider, GnRH is used to treat prostate cancer if I'm not mistaken. I have no idea what would happen in an AFAB, and truth be told I'm not going that deep. I don't think anyone should be telling anyone what they can or can't put in/do with their bodies, but I'm not sure what to believe about the risk. Reading this would certainly make me second guess taking them considering my family history of arthritis.
🤷♂️ idk mane
Yeah, you don't know... It's really not what it seems though, and it's not actually about starting with a conclusion (we shouldn't be treating trans kids) and then only glomming onto whatever scraps you can find that might indicate that your worldview is correct, while simply ignoring that mountains of evidence to the contrary.
Definitely not that. You're just asking questions! And it's just a coincidence that every time someone tells you why you're wrong, or asks you for more detail about your arguments, you resort to the whole, "I don't know, I'm not an expert." Yeah no shit.
So you just didn't read the part where I said "we shouldn't be telling people what they can or can't put in their bodies", huh?
My advice to you is to stop letting your emotions dictate your words.
Edit: oh yeah, after re-reading what I wrote you definitely rage typed this response. Do better.
Do yourself a favour and don't read the possible side effects on the back of the box of paracetamol you bought from the supermarket.
Yeah I actually do my utmost to avoid taking Acetaminophen.
How many of these side effects could just be the result of starting puberty after stopping the medication?
I genuinely don't know, but is osteoporosis common as a result of puberty?
Edit:
Also a risk when taking birth control, the question is how severe and can you recover after completing puberty.
Idk how I feel about kids taking birth control either, is that a normal thing??
If you don't want kids getting pregnant, yes.
Wait you mean they have to start taking hormonal birth control before they start having sex?
Next you’re going to tell me they should get the HPV vaccine before they start having sex too!
😯
My point is moreso that kids shouldn't be having sex, but sure yeah. Read into it guys.
My apologies that you couldn’t get laid in high school.
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So you're either suggesting that 12 year olds should be fucking high schoolers, or you're just too dumb to think about what you said.
I'll give you a few minutes.
I mean I don't, but more because I don't like the thought of kids having sex.
You can't stop people from having sex, so it's best to give them the education and healthcare necessary to reduce risks.
I don't disagree with that. The idea of high schoolers fucking 12 year olds will never sit well with me but sure, it's probably best they don't get pregnant as a result of it.
Ah I was referring to it as a side effect of birth control in adults. But birth control for ones that have gone through puberty is definitely better than the possibly deadly side effects of child birth and pregnancy.
It's been around since the 80s, we already know long term outcomes.
Um, excuse me, who said 40 years was long enough? If we don't have trials that show how people receiving these drugs turned out all the way until they died then we don't really have long term trials, do we?
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It's such a fucking cop out. Nothing will ever be good enough for some people.