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I don't know any true Christians who are MAGA or racists or even bigots. But with the commonly used definition that if someone says something is bad they automatically are seen as hating the people doing it many people arguing in communities like that would be called haters or bigots and possibly be banned here on lemmy.world. Even though most true Christians don't like MAGA and hardline rights they might feel the need to create communities like r/TrueChristian oad r/AskAChristian on exploding-heads.com or similar servers because they might think that their opinions are tolerated there. What do you think?

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[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Religion is as much a protected class as sexual orientation. So long as they abide by the community rules, which includes the social contract of tolerance, then they'll be just as tolerated.

[-] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

What do you understand as "tolerant"? Does it have to be always affirming? Say, I state that a certain behavior is not good. You disagree. I tolerate your opinion even though I disagree. But you state that my opinion is hateful and want it to be banned. Who of us is "tolerant"?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's not that complicated. If someone is in a protected class based on something you disagree with, keep it to yourself. If you're compelled by religious conscience to pull someone out of a protected class, this isn't the place for you.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Who defines what is a "protected class"?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Society.

Age, race, national identity, sexual orientation, gender identity, religious identity, etc.

These are all equally protected classes on the society of this instance, and tolerance is a social contract that says "I agree to tolerate your class." If one can't tolerate the fact someone is a christian, or gay, or first nations, they break the tolerance contract and will not likely be tolerated in turn.

Tolerance doesn't mean agreement. It means leaving it alone.

If you can't leave it alone, please feel welcome to migrate to a social instance that doesn't protect it.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

If someone comes to AskAChristian and asks what does your religion teach about xyz would I not be allowed to answer because the answer could be interpreted as harassment of a protected class?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You could answer that your religion teaches that xyz is bad because Jesus said so, or whatever.

However, the issue is, whilst you are only stating the tenets of your religion, if what your religion states is hateful - thats an issue.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Great answer!

hateful = considered hateful by the immediate society. The speaker doesn't have to agree that it's hateful.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

By "society" you mean the majority of people? And when the majority of people thinks something is wrong that gives them the right to cancel out a minority opinion just by calling it "hate"?

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But isn't religion also one of the protected classes? I would only state what i think my religion teaches I would not discriminate or cancel anyone and let other opinions stand. But when someone tries to cancel me for stating what i think my religion teaches wouldn't they discriminate against me because of my religion?

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