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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Tree Style Tabs makes this much better. Horizontal tabs don't really work for >10 tabs. Vertical tabs are the only way to live.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Tried it and was disappointed that it was an additional thing that doesn't hide the default tab bar when enabled. Never ended up using it because of that, plus unreadable tabs is not a daily thing for me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The trick is to use custom CSS to hide the default tab bar.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Or Firefox could add native support for both orientations, and tab grouping.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

OK neat I found the setting that allows hiding tabs (so it's just groups again), better than nothing but I'm guessing I'd still need to use custom CSS to just... turn off the horizontal tab bar completely when using the tree menu?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

You can try Floorp browser (based on firefox) it hides the default tab bar and looks similar to vivaldi browser.

Also it has tree style tabs built in, you just have to enable it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

"Close all tabs" and bookmarks are also your friends.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If they made bookmarks that would update as you navigate, yes. Until then, no, they're not a substitute for tabs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're almost there. Imagine a thing that was like a bookmark but also had its own individual history, and also kept track of where you currently are in that history.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is their anything that implements this?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I think they're calling them "tabs".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

My browser has tabs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think that's what the history is for...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Not at all the same thing. For one, you can open a history entry and then navigate back from that to the page you came from to that page - which there may be several. Tabs preserve per-tab history which makes it superior in many ways to both history and bookmarks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

fair point but in practice, I don't really see it being useful very often... You could write an extension to implement that feature so that tabs dont crowd your space...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, do whatever works for you, but that sounds kinda unnecessary when you can just use an already existing feature - tabs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I do use tab, but they are kind of a problem too... I usually have 20+ tabs opened and many of them I never revisit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Use a tab unloader addon. That way if you don't revisit then they don't take up any resources.

I use "Basic automated tab unloader" but there are several.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They would still use my attention and screen real estate, no?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Ah you don't have to keep all the tabs in view at the same time. There are addons like "Panorama Tab Groups" that let you only work with one group at a time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, book burning is mental hygiene

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

specially on Android where I manage to open new tabs on accident

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I find Edges grouped tabs well implemented, not sure why Firefox doesnt move this way natively?

As to 14 tabs, I'd have 50 or more

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Firefox had tab grouping much earlier than most browsers, but they removed it because reasons...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Gotta check out Sidebery. It’s a big upgrade from TST

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

TST works better with STG, and that is a huge plus for me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sidebery provides this functionality as well. Don’t get me wrong. If you like TST and STG, then enjoy!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

TST = Tree Style Tabs STG = Simple Tab Groups

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Trees is sort of useful but vertical tabs and tree tabs take a lot more space and aren't useful .