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This is stupid. Tomatoes aren't native to India and chillies aren't native to China, doesn't mean those ingredients aren't legitimate to use in those cuisines. If you want to critique elitist European gastronomy then you should talk about how the French can't bear to eat anything that doesn't come from a dead animal or how elitist and condescending towards food from non-European cultures many Whites are.
Yeah I’m all for dunking on Europeans, but this is a dumb take, all food is from somewhere else. Apples may have come from Kazakhstan but that doesn’t mean people and cultures from outside Kazakhstan haven’t also grown apples and come up with unique ways to prepare and eat them. So what? Doesn’t mean a Japanese apple curry isn’t a part of Japanese cuisine, or cider isn’t a traditional beverage in south west England. Likewise with rice? Are we claiming that only food made near the Yangtze River basin can claim rice? Nigerian Jollof is rice apropriation?
Get outa here.
Dunk on Belgium for being allergic to flavour, or Germany for thinking chicken is a vegetable or Italians for being weird little freaks if you mess up a “traditional Italian recipe” when the only Italian food tradition for most of history was ‘not starving’.
Yeah this is silly. Cabbage is (as far as I can tell) native to Europe, but are we gonna pretend Kimchi is somehow not Korean?
Kimchi = Sauerkraut in a spicy hat and therefore kimchi is German.
Don’t point out that sauerkraut has possible origins in China.
Neat! I didn't know sauerkraut had Chinese origins. Do you think both Kimchi and sauerkraut has some common Chinese dish as their ancestor?
They do! It's called suān cài, and uses chinese mustard in the south and west and napa cabbage in north china (this being the variety that sauerkraut is based on. Kimchi likely either shares its origin here as well or may have started as the same dish.
Oh, 100%.
That's very cool! I'll try it if I ever get the chance.
I will stuff anyone that mocks kimchi into a stone urn and pickle them with enough salt and red pepper powder to kimchify them sour.
You are only allowed to do this if you're European, per hexbear rules. Sorry.
Alright you're going in the jar first
Mesopotamians had cabbage so I doubt it was from Europe
Hear hear. Reason #4587 I hate this fucking country. When it doesn't come from a dead creature it comes from a live one that is being actively tortured.
Their "cuisine" they're so proud of is built on mass slaughter and abuse, it's disgusting
I watched that Amazon Wheel of Time show when it first came out and one character is demonstrated to be a psychopath by having him eat an ortolan.
When I later found out that it's a French delicacy, that they're driving the bird extinct and that they hide under a napkin while doing it because it's so disgusting looking (the source I learned from colorfully called it "hiding their faces from God"), I was genuinely shocked. It became a fact that I've bothered all of my friends and family with, and many coworkers. Not one has reacted in a way other than disgust.
Indeed. Though IMO eating an Ortolan is still slightly less morally bankrupt that eating a steak - the former was caught in the wild, the latter is the product of systematic large-scale exploitation, torture and slaughter.
The main difference beyond that is the aesthetic and how normalized the latter is.
I'm conflicted here, the beef industry is horrific, but Ortolans are also tortured to death, even if they do live free before capture.
Yeah, it's probably stupid to try and rank suffering like that, my bad. Both are atrocious, let's leave it at that.
The problem is this is the only side of the story that ever gets talked about, because mayobrain.
The other side (all the ingredients I've listed, and many more that I don't know about) are not.