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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

NATO was originally founded so that we'd stop invading each other, which should still hold true today.

I like to think of most developed nations as young adults. All of us are supposed to be mature, which means no more war. We can just talk about things like responsible adults.

Sadly, some of these younger fucks still haven't grasped the concept of "don't be an idiot", and we now need NATO for a strong message of "no, you're not going to touch us, there will be consequences". It's a sad thing that we still need to do so, but I'd rather have a large group of friends that I'm sure will have my back if someone would start shit.

So yes, Sweden joining NATO is a good thing. If anything it will lead to better cooperation and coordination between our countries. Not just in the event of war, but just sharing defense resources and intelligence as well. But the best argument is that we just like you Swedes, and we want to keep hanging out together.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You are confusing NATO and UN. UN was founded so that we'd stop invading each other.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

NATO was, too. It's like nuclear weapons. Deterrence. Not meant to be used, but it's a stabilizer.

That's why Trump's words are so harmful. It undermines the deterrence value and the trust. Even though the US is the only country that has ever needed to activate Article 5, after 911. But he probably doesn't even know that.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

NATO formed as a check on the threat to capitalism posed by the Soviet Union.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Now it's a check on the threat of the kleptocracy that is the Russian Federation.