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We started a charity to alleviate wild fish suffering. We spent $30k trying to contact fish farmers via email. This didn't work, so we gave up. We consider the project a success. (forum.effectivealtruism.org)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

TL;DR:

Overall, despite the fact that the project "failed", we see the overall experience as a positive one. Most new charities fail - that is part of the game. The important thing is to figure out as quickly as possible whether your idea is a good one, and we believe that we succeeded in doing so.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the whole thing reads like a nonspecific job application to the EA-industrial-complex, actual "charity" irrelevant here

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, if they had taken just one evening to chill and put themselves in the shoes of the tired, overly spammed, unmotivated farmers; they would have instantly recognised that sending them a non solicited email with a nondescript, probably overly verbose request, would be the absolute worst way to go about reaching them. Save maybe for carving their message on a brick and throwing it at their main window.

It looks to me as a typical case of "not my money, so let's take things easy". I would gladly make a study on how many failed charities would have been successful, would the funding depend on some basic metric. I would even do that as a charity. For, say, 30k. 🙃

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Considering they only bothered to translate the landing page of their site, they prob would have emailed these farmers in english, and got promptly ignored due to that alone. I mean if you cannot even be bothered to translate into the companies (prob) primary language.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Nah, at least according to their post, they translated. But if they put as much effort in translating the text as they seemingly did in everything else, it might have sounded quite awkward... 😅

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

50 bucks that they just plopped it into ChatGPT and called it a day.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Right, missed that. Thanks for correcting me! I had only looked at the site and saw the translation buttons only worked on the main page.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

It's quite alright. Happens to anyone. I also miss stuff on a regular basis. I have, however, to salute the lemming camaraderie, it is a very nice change of tone from other platforms. 🙂

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

"We had a bad idea bad spent only 30k on it."

Great job kids, here's your "You Tried " ribbon.