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if you call everyone dude and a transfem person gets mad about it, don't get defensive. just say like "sorry, i won't do it again" and don't argue "actually it's gender neutral" or "i call everyone dude". even if you do, i guarantee she's heard that argument from someone who very much does not call people they see as women dude. i certainly have

same goes double for the word guy.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

morelike, dude (derogatory), I feel the same way about mate, I've accidentally blurted out it implies reproduction more than once.

dude likely comes from Yankee Doodle, and later meant something like city slicker, think fancy man, or f#g (politely) 🙄, dont call me dude, bro

If you've seen Easy Rider (1969), you know what happens to Yankee Dudes (they get murdered)

Anyway, I heard women and dudes used the other day and I can't stop laughing about it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I would assume "mate" comes from sailors ("first mate" is derived from matelot, which was just an experienced deckshand. Matelot is derived from the word mötunautr, a Nordic word for "table fellow") and not from "mating".

Edit: found a very interesting article https://www.smh.com.au/national/mate-what-s-the-history-of-our-most-treasured-salutation-20210513-p57rhk.html.
Looking further it looks like it's actually the other way around: "Mating" is derived from "mate". When you refer to "mating" you are implying the lovemaking is with a friendly companion, which I think is rather cute. It seems like "mating" at one point referred to just going hiking with a friend/working with a friend/doing a task with a friend, and then it's morphed over time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I draw the line at "mate". I get everything else can be and is gendered and thats fine but "mate" is going to be the hill I die on.

As [email protected] pointed out, it's more referred to companionship with a friend than reproduction and as others have pointed to and I agree with, if you dont want to be called x then I won't.