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Fast-food wrappers and packaging that contain so-called forever chemicals are no longer being sold in the U.S., the Food and Drug Administration announced Wednesday.

It’s the result of a voluntary effort with U.S. food manufacturers to phase out food contact packaging made with PFAS, the acronym for perfluoroalkyl and polyfluoroalkyl substances, which do not degrade and can harm human health.

Starting in 2020, the FDA obtained commitments from U.S. food manufacturers to phase out PFAS in wrappers, boxes and bags with coating to prevent grease, water and other liquids from soaking through.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think you should get less "folksy" and more informed and realistic about our modern food industries.

Plastics play an enormous role and are absolutely essential.

Your position is like someone saying they want steel out of construction, since it rusts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Sigh.

Rust? Steel? Building materials?
I’m talking about plastics in contact with the food we consume, not whatever that is. Stay on topic.

My position is that chemicals that act on plastics also act on our biology, and we know that because there are studies that prove it.
Using a heuristic to explain why I believe plastics should not be in our food chain is not uninformed. You’ll note, though, that I said my belief stands regardless of impracticality, and I explicitly did not assert that it would be possible to remove plastics from food processing.

So - that’s where I am. I stated a belief. And I used the word “folksy” because “heuristic” makes me sound like an insufferable know-it-all. (But discussing organic chemistry probably made me seem like one, anyway.)

In your rabid pursuit of ‘winning’ you failed to understand my comment or intent. You challenged nothing I said nor said anything of substance in your response. You focused on arguing against things I did not state, reaffirmed prior statements you made that I did not challenge, and made a completely irrelevant and hyperbolic characterization of me as a person.
I have no interest in arguing my beliefs with someone who is clearly incapable of challenging them.

It’s okay, buddy. I still respect you as a human. Ta.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

I wasn't trying to "win" anything, just to sort of gently get a feel for whether you were simply ignorant or an actual legitimate idiot....and now I know.