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Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ‘uncommitted’ in Michigan’s primary on Tuesday

Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.

“It’s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote that’s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,” she said on Sunday during an interview on CNN’s State of the Union. “A second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.”

Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Biden’s 2024 campaign, also said she wasn’t sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.

Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote “uncommitted” in Michigan’s 27 February primary.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

“Let’s (literally) destroy democracy so we might be able to save the Democratic Party”.

Did you miss all the great speeches at CPAC?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you not understand what "primary" means?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

A meaningless formality since 2012.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

"Let's literally commit Genocide so Biden doesn't have to run another 4 years".

Trumps rise to power is a direct consequence of the DNC sabotaging every attempt of real progressives like Bernie that could have actually fixed issues.

It creates both voter apathy and it enables right-wingers to point to the deteriorated standards of living under Biden and blame Biden for it (and biden pulls out another 15 Billion for israel) (cue someone linking me how people working 3 jobs is good for unemployment)

If Biden wins now the unrest and support for right-wing authoritarianism will only grow.

2016

If Trump loses the election, that will not remove the threats and social changes that trigger the “action side” of authoritarianism.

The authoritarians will still be there. They will still look for candidates who will give them the strong, punitive leadership they desire.

If bad Dems keep winning the right will only grow stronger.

If Biden wins this time #Hitler2028 is a plausible reality as Biden is doing nothing to address any real problems and only gradually making things worse. Further bolstering Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The only way I see Biden winning this election is a) Trump has a stroke B) they throw Trump in jail

The polls are clear, people are growing increasingly tired of Biden. Trump was one of the most unpopular presidents in history - and Biden is even more unpopular.

We're fucked either way, like you said. Biden wins and the unrest is delayed and will blow up even stronger later on. Put Trump in jail and that unrest will be amplified tenfold. Look what happened when Hitler got out of jail (or Lula in Brazil for a more recent example) If Bifen loses, we of course have our proto-fascist.

Honestly I admire Trump for both his ability to absolutely dominate the GOP, even when the big donors are directly against him and his perseverance and dedication to do literally anything in his power to win.

I don't know how he still has such a fire inside him at his age.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I admire Trump for both his ability to absolutely dominate the GOP

He only beat Haley 60-40 in SC. Media talks about his big primary wins, but they're not really showing a politician that has really consolidated his party, especially as a virtual incumbent. He's probably the only Republican Biden could beat, and Biden is conversely the only Democrat Trump could beat. Yet on we march to a repeat general election between two candidates most people don't like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

to be fair, that's probably one of the worst performing states for him because it's Haley's home state

Look at what happened at the primary in Nevada. He was removed from the ballot so he told his supporters to not go out and vote. What happened? Over 60% voted "none of these candidates"

Nikki Haley lost to "none of these candidates"

if you look at the polls for the republican primary: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/2024/national/

trump is >75%

that's domination, especially considering a) desantis got more funding AND was polling better at the start of the campaign season and b) nikki haley picked up that funding after desantis dropped out

the establishment republicans are desperate to get rid of trump but he's like a tick that won't go away

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

He wasn't removed from the ballot, he chose to remove himself because the party rules said candidates had to do that to compete in the caucus that would actually choose electors. "None of the above" were just Trump votes, which falls in line with a candidate who should be doing better for his name recognition and history.

He can be solidly above 50%, assuring a primary win, and still not be demonstrating that he's consolidated his party. He won his 2020 primaries with 94% of the vote.