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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Actual unpopular opinion: people obsess over legalization models for everything because they have bad enforcement models to base their data off of

Law enforcement in the US distributes drugs. Corruption has turned "informants" into a system where the police are essentially gangs which monopolize both criminal activity and the law. Our air force got caught cooking MDMA on a nuclear base in the Netherlands. We have a base here in Texas that changed names because they keep having suicides mass shootings and sweeping SA allegations under the rug. Two of the soldiers got caught with a middle schooler man. There's so many goddamn drugs

Anyways my point is sociologists studying the US actions will assume it is impossible to make anything illegal without causing havoc.

There are ways to eliminate issues like prostitution and drug abuse without locking up prositutes or giving people possession charges or locking up street dealers making less than minimum wage. That kind of criminalization does absolutely nothing other than ruin lives

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Which ways, can you detail them?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You go after the pimps and distributors, to begin with. Help get low level members of these orgs out and back into society. Genuine rehabilitation is not the goal of our prison system, just slavery. To state the obvious you prolly know.

I am not a huge fan of the Nordic model but it is miles better than trying to get the UN orgs to call pimps "sex workers" ugh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the Nordic model.. Like Sweden and it's obsession with drugs, to the point where the doctors will rather you suffer than get you help because if they give you something that can be perceived as addictive, you'll just become a degenerate addict.

How about the zero tolerance part on having or being on drugs, the one where they will literally ruin your life and any future prospects if they find you with a banned substance in your blood..

You know where that's led to? It's led to Sweden having the highest drug related death rate in Europe.

I don't get why governments get to tell people what they can and cannot take tbh. I love smoking weed, if I have the right strain it decreases my anxiety by 80%,but some fucker in government only understands "drug bad", so fuck me and my anxiety.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Weed should just be legal tbqh but still controlled like booze but some drugs should always be strictly be medical imho there should not be recreational sedative markets really.

Alcohol is bad enough and weed at least doesn't cause respiratory depression but idk about recreational benzos or whatever. Opiates. That's medical shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Prohibition does nothing but punish the poor and poorer countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious what you'd think would be better than the Nordic model; to my current understanding it's the path the evidence best supports as leading to rehabilitation.

That said, if we just imported the Nordic model and made no other societal changes, I don't think anything would meaningfully change. Pimps and dealers exist because there is an economic place for them. Even if you arrest people and then treat them with kindness, understanding, and education, it doesn't remove the incentives that pushed them into that role in the first place, and it won't stop someone else from moving into the vacuum that arrest creates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I want Mao Zedong thought

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But what about all the shareholders who have a stake in the prison-industrial complex?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

They can go to rehab for money addiction.