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The US is supporting Israel through what we can mostly all agree is a genocide of the Gazans. Clearly, Biden isn't a genocidal maniac, yet he's all in with unwavering support. Why are we doing this? There has to be a logical reason that isn't just "we want Israel to kill everyone in Gaza and take their land a la lebensraum."

We know this is an emotional topic, so please be respectful of each other so that we can have open and clear authentic discussion on the matter.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because Isreal is a leading military power in the Middle East. They are Western in most of their views and the US can deal with them. You can’t say the same about any of the other Middle Eastern nations.

Israel is coming down hard on Gaza and Hamas to make an example of them. They are going to send that strip back to the Stone Age. This operation is a statement, “this is what happens when you fuck with us. “

No other Middle Eastern powers give a shit about Gaza. They make noises to appease their populations. But no other Nation has offered direct military assistance or action.

In short it would be stupid to drop Israel as an ally over this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

God forbid we stop calling someone an ally when they kill 20,000 people in less than 6 months

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Look, I agree that Isreal needs to do more to protect Gazan citizens. And to deal with the present situation you need to ignore about 2000 years of history. With that said, when your neighbor is a terrorist group with the EXPLICIT AIM of eradicating the state of Israel, and they launch indiscriminate terrorist attacks on you, and deliberately hide among civilian populations to maximize casualties, what are your options except a land invasion to remove them from power, even though you know there will be civilian deaths?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I mean you could start by not shooting aid trucks, killing people with their hands up and shirts off, not blowing up ambulances on their way to save six year olds.

That’s just me though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

War always has civilian deaths. It's an unfortunate consequence.

This is different. Gaza is being flattened by the indiscriminate bombing. Its ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

It's not ridiculous. It's the point. Lives are the currency. Hamas has one value Israel has another. The exchange rate is far from even.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Morality doesn't exist on the scale of nations.