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Poilievre says 'biological males' should be banned from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms (www.cbc.ca)
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Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre stepped into the debate over trans rights on Wednesday, saying "biological males" should be banned from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms.

"Female spaces should be exclusively for females, not for biological males," Poilievre said in Kitchener, Ont.

The Conservative leader made the comments after being asked if, as prime minister, he would introduce legislation to prevent "transgender women" or "biological men" from participating in female sports or entering female prisons and shelters.

"A lot of the spaces … are provincially and municipally controlled, so it is unclear ... what reach federal legislation would have to change them," Poilievre said.

"But obviously female sports, female change rooms, female bathrooms should be for females, not for biological males," he added.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how he would label post-op trans women. They still have a Y chromosome, and are therefore "biological males."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's the problem with Pollievre's language.

And even pre bottom surgery trans people are vulnerable.

It feels like a given that trans people deserve to be able to use public washrooms and change rooms without fear, and I haven't seen any actual evidence they cause any issues beyond offending some closed minded people.

There are biological female spaces which it makes sense to exclude trans people from, they do have different experiences than cis women when it comes to growing up, periods, giving birth, etc. But bathrooms don't seem like one them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I remember that headline where the story is that a bunch of cis girls in a changeroom were perving on their underage swim teammate and staring at her penis. Like literally there were lines in the article that were like "I couldn't stop staring at my teammate's dick". And then the headline on the article and the narrative framing is "trans girl makes teammates uncomfortable by using changeroom for its intended purpose. How dare she!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Found it: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10445679/Lia-Thomas-UPenn-teammate-says-trans-swimmer-doesnt-cover-genitals-locker-room.html

'It's definitely awkward because Lia still has male body parts and is still attracted to women,' one swimmer on the team told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.

While Lia covers herself with a towel sometimes, there’s a decent amount of nudity, the swimmer said. She and others have had a glimpse at her private parts.

"Help, help, I'm being repressed! I stared at a teenage girl's genitals and now I'M uncomfortable!"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That feels like one of those cases where someone should step in and separate her because that situation sounds uncomfortable for everyone… or even bringing a screen to separate her if they don’t have access to another space for her to change.

There’s not that many trans people, it feels like accommodating this would be easy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Most boys are perfectly capable of being in the same room as a penis without losing their minds. If we're going to end segregation then we need to get everyone comfortable with being in the same room as other naked people. I say we give those pervy cis girls some mandatory sensitivity training on when it is not appropriate to look at other people's junk.