this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2024
336 points (94.9% liked)

politics

19096 readers
3598 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Donald Trump has clinically diagnosable Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and living with NPD is hard. People with NPD aren't walking around saying "I only associate with the best people and have the best things" and viewing every single experience through the singular lens of how it affects them because they want to, but because they have to. It's the only way they know how to cope with the world around them.

People with NPD who aren't born into money like Trump often struggle to maintain employment and relationships. Trump struggles just as much but can throw money and power around to get out of bad situations. Just look at all his failed business ventures and failed relationships. Trump is literally textbook NPD and it's terrifying he has so much power and is influencing such a large segment of society to be like him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's tragic for anyone in that situation. It also sucks extra hard that he's become our collective tragedy, but the universe is like that sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If Trump had never existed wouldn't it have been someone else to fill his role though?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I don't know if there was anyone else in the field in 2016 who has the same mix of traits to do the kind of damage he did to the country. I could be wrong about this, but I think a president Cruz would have been slimy and made the country worse but I don't think he would have been as bad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I understand where you're coming from and it's refreshing seeing someone have the empathy you do for people suffering with NPD. Having any type of mental illness though isn't an excuse or good enough reason to treat people the way he does, or to damage or harm others like a lot of NPDs do. It's unfortunate their mental illness can screw up and damage the lives of so many other people around them. I find it difficult to sympathize with them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

It's definitely no excuse, which is why I said him having such power and influence is terrifying. If anything, it's a terrifying reflection of a subset of society who are completely willing to overlook all the horrible things he does, where even one single uncouth allegation or statement would have brought down previous candidates. It's a huge and upsetting shift in societal norms

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

"It isn't your fault, but it is your responsibility."

Unfortunately, he was never taught responsibility in a way that took, presuming he's capable of it in a meaningful sense.

Sympathizing with them is not actually compulsory; I intentionally do so as an exercise because I believe that stretching myself that way will lead to better outcomes in situations where I have power over people, but it's not at all a requirement.