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Do they still make these posters? (lemmy.today)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hear me out here: this is a case for feminism. Real feminism, with equality as its goal, not the mockery that gets created and elevated by the stupid fucking culture wars. It's not that men can consent while drunk. It's that men can't ever not consent, and it comes from the deep-seated misogynist idea that men are dumb animals that would fuck a hole in the wall and aren't responsible for their actions. In a lot of cases that "boys will be boys" line of reasoning is used to limit men's exposure to repercussions for sexual misconduct, but the relatively new phenomenon of filing rape charges when the woman is intoxicated has taken that abhorrent stereotype and turned it into the idea that women can't consent while drunk but men can because, again, men can't ever not consent.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I believe the term "feminism" have a discrimination connotation, maybe we should invent something like equalism.. sounds more accurate at least for me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Feminism is about equality. As long as we still have frequent female firsts, we're gonna need feminism. For example, we've been in space for 50 years, and just last year we had our first entirely female spacewalk. We are only now planning on sending a woman to the moon. Last year, the number of female CEOs finally outnumbered males... Named John.

We need equality, and in many cases, that means we need to improve the ways we as a society treat women.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

You're absolutely right, I'm not disagreeing with anything you said. It's just important to note that there are areas where gender stereotyping hurts men too, and those areas are being seized upon by anti-equality movements and used to frame the movement as feminists vs men when we as feminists could be framing them as feminists, including men, vs harmful stereotypes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That is actually a major concern for feminism atm. The old guard stands by the term but it's toxic to the people it needs to reach.

You ask an angry young man if he's a feminist, he'll say no.

You ask him if he agrees with most feminist points, he'll usually say yes.