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The impacted borrowers are people enrolled in the SAVE Plan.

The Biden administration will begin automatically relieving student debt for another 153,000 people on Wednesday, bringing the total number of Americans approved for debt relief to nearly 3.9 million.

President Joe Biden will tout the new debt relief in a speech from Los Angeles, and thousands of people will receive an email from the president informing them that they now qualify for relief.

"Congratulations — all or a portion of your federal student loans will be forgiven because you qualify for early loan forgiveness under my Administration's SAVE Plan," the email from the president will read.

The people receiving debt relief beginning Wednesday are those who enrolled in the newest student loan payment plan, called the SAVE Plan, which the Department of Education calls the most affordable plan for the majority of borrowers.

Anyone enrolled in the SAVE Plan who took out less than $12,000 in initial loans and has been paying them down for the past 10 years or more will have them forgiven.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Why not both? I am stoked that some people are getting relief! That said, if we can send billions of dollars to other countries to fund wars, I feel like we can do a little more here at home.

I am fortunate that I am doing okay financially that my loan payments won’t bankrupt me but I know not everyone is in that same position. However if I hadn’t been so close to taking care of other debts before the deferment finally went away things would have gotten uncomfortably right for me and my family.

I am aware that this is a me problem but I feel like with as long as that shit was deferred and with the price gouging that is happening in literally every aspect of life right now I am allowed a little anger towards Biden for not doing more.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That said, if we can send billions of dollars to other countries to fund wars, I feel like we can do a little more here at home.

Which would be great if Republicans and SCOTUS would allow it.

I am allowed a little anger towards Biden for not doing more.

What more could he do? He got student loan relief passed, SCOTUS struck it down and Republicans took over the house. He's done everything that is in his power to do, which is not much, but at least some people are getting relief.

I'm not going to pretend I'm a big Biden fan, but I just don't think he deserves criticism on this specific issue because he really did try and try hard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Which would be great if Republicans and SCOTUS would allow it.

So the excuse then is that he should not waste the effort to try because SCOTUS and the Republicans will shoot it down? I would rather his administration try and fail than to continue just freely giving away our money to fund foreign wars.

What more could he do?

Others have said it more concisely than I have the time or energy to already. As I said I am not irritated that people are getting help, it’s awesome. I am irritated because more can be done, or at least fought for, and it is not happening to the scale it should be.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He already made the effort. And he did it when he had congress on his side. Now congress is on his side. He can't do this without congress passing a law to help him. They won't do that. You're mad at the wrong person.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Generally speaking, it isn't the person so much as the party.

However Biden is the antithesis of marshalling his party towards legislative goals. Clyburn, Pelosi, Hoyer were all terrible as a party Whip and Clark appears to be a corporate shell supporting Israel.

So when there is just failure to get the Democratic party to mobilize towards exercising or acquiring the political power to legislate... people get tired of the excuses. Not to mention the past overtures towards Sinema, Manchin, and the repeated calls for strong a Strong Republican Party and Bipartisanship... people are going to place thr blame on the positions of power.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Legislate how? They're a minority in the House and Republicans sure as fuck wouldn't allow a vote on student loan debt relief.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are vulnerable Republican House members. We have seen it demonstrated repeatedly with the Speaker shenanigans.

But if we close the scope of the timescale to just 'now' instead of over the last several election cycles it sure looks like an insurmountable challenge.

But if such Republican intransigence is the assumption, then the bipartisanship stance Biden has clung to is a failure strategy that should be abandoned. That as an example would be a step Biden could take to position his Party better legislstively.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

the bipartisanship stance Biden has clung to is a failure strategy that should be abandoned.

Abandoned, nothing. It should never have been tried in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He already made the effort.

He doesn’t get off that easy, it required than “okay, well he tried” to get it done.

You're mad at the wrong person.

Homie, I’m mad at them all. Our political landscape is a clown fiesta of a shit show. Biden is not above criticism or being held to the promises he made. 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Again- what else can he do?

You seem to think the president can just act unilaterally and forgive all student loans when SCOTUS specifically said he can't do that and that congress has to.

The president isn't a king.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

we can send billions of dollars to other countries to fund wars, I feel like we can do a little more here at home.

People have a profound lack of understanding about the "billions of dollars to other countries to fund wars". Honestly, it's like this country has gone full "Idiocracy".

Money is NOT sent to off countries. The "money" provides jobs to people HERE to make weapons and equipment that is sent to countries - it provides good paying jobs here. That's why House Republicans are blocking aid to Ukraine because they want to tank the economy. That is why they will try to shut down the government. That is why they working so hare to create a worsening border crisis.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Like those pallets of US cash sent to Iraq and Afghanistan that magically went missing? What about this? https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-us-aid-ukraine-money-equipment-714688682747

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People have a profound lack of understanding about the "billions of dollars to other countries to fund wars". Honestly, it's like this country has gone full "Idiocracy".

Honey, sweetie, baby, it’s a simplistic way of putting it. I’m sure that raging at strangers on the internet is a good time for you but please take some time to breathe in between so you don’t give yourself an aneurysm.

That's why House Republicans are blocking aid to Ukraine because they want to tank the economy.

Literally not part of the current discussion, but it is no big surprise to anyone what the republicans are doing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They weren't mad lmao your first reply was incredibly rude and unwarranted

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago