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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Hasan “I’m white. In my real life, I am treated by white people as a white person. I have white privilege. I am white.” Hexbear users “ actually, I am extremely racist, and do not consider you to be white by my standards, which are more racist than the average person , this is an actually very progressive and leftist thing to say”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Aye, my stance is, if you're considered white by most of society, I guess you're white. Just wait until they pulling out calipers and compare you to the "purer" races... and that's an oof for you...

Whiteness is as consistent as the mutual intelligibility of all the Arabic language(s)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Whiteness and race are fluid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not just whatever Americans think, particularly a Turk living in America, and one with a lot of privilege.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not thinking of Americans?

What will be considered white in Spain, will not exactly correlate with what British people would think are white, and so on with Scandinivia, Russia, Germany, U.S.A, etc

I think my point with Arab languages, with it as a comparison, is that the national dialects within them aren't really mutually intelligible to each other...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh, no, I was referring to Hasan Piker and was making the point that it shouldn't matter what one Turk has to say (or one Arab or one Kurd, etc.), especially out of many.

But yeah, I get what you're saying here (hopefully, I'm keeping up with the convo; sometimes I reply without seeing the full context, even in the one I'm conversing in LMAO).

Edit: Actually, now I remember: I was also agreeing with you hahahaha

Yeah, I think we're good.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

“Actually, he is Muslim therefore he cannot be white because I do not consider Muslim people to be white. I am very progressive.” Or or “ he is Turkish and Turkish people cannot be white, despite Turkish people being white, this is a anti-racist statement”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

“ Actually, I am literally Hitler reincarnate, and my view of who is and isn’t white is the most accurate one”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think many are saying that haha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

this is the “western” struggle session over again where some users think it’s a good thing to be “white” and “western” and get offended when you point out comprador lackeys on the fringes of the white supremacist western system are not actually full on card carrying members of the evil empire, that they will be tossed aside and made “brown” and “foreign” as soon as they are no longer useful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is a BIPOC thread, actually.

We're not having a struggle session.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s the same argument re-hashed is my point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I don't think we're at the point where we're arguing either haha

I kinda see this as mainly a discussion.

At least, nobody is fighting with each other, I think.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

A Chechen is white so long as they don’t mention they’re Muslim.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

When a well to do black conservative says that racism is over and they're treated as white, do you believe them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

As a Turk, I don't consider myself white.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Many Arabs and people around Arabia (Turkmen, Kurds, etc.) consider themselves white, tbh.

I don't know if it's true in general.

But that's where "lived experience" comes in.