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also a million other characters, but i saw someone arguing silence of the lambs wasn't transphobic the other day so that's on my mind

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the character still perpetuates negative image of transgender people, the intent of the author is irrelevant.

it's literally an evil man dressing in womans clothing and killing women out of jealously. it's basically the plot of Psycho

it's also heavily suggesting that a doctor is the only person who can determine if someone is transgender, and not the individual themself, which might have been the prominent scientific thought at the time, but it's a slimey feeling now considering how many trans people are gatekept from transition and dismissed because they're faking it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's why I said that part. Also, a point that is stronger in the book might just be unnoticed in the film, which is what most people know.

The part about the doctors is not that they determine being trans, but that sex reassignment surgery is not done on a whim and doctors have to be convinced that the person is trans and will not regret the decision at a later point. At least for me it gave a glimpse on the process and made a clear distinction: whatever he is or does has nothing to do with being trans.

Even a good will from the author might completely backfire, so I can't judge about the result. I just thought his intentions do count towards judging him, separated from the character he created.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

imo good will doesn't matter when the result is so harmful

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

good will arguments are always such a privileged take to me

like, its incredibly important that we don't judge the creator for the results of their work for some reason? like there's this great need to make sure no one has the wrong idea about this particular person who just so happens to be more relatable to the commenter than the groups affected by their work? i genuinely don't understand the motivation behind arguments like that other than because you want to re-assure yourself that if, in the future, you end up offending somebody or furthering the hurt of a minority group, you can wash your hands by saying you didn't intend it