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cross-posted from: https://ttrpg.network/post/4222671

Want a 3D printer in New York? Get ready for fingerprinting and a 15 day wait

Assembly Bill A8132 has been assigned a "Same As" bill in the Senate: S8586 [NYSenate.gov] [A8132 - 2023]

I don't own a gun, I never have and I don't plan to at any time in the future. But if these pass in the NYS Senate and Congress, it would be required to submit fingerprints for a background check then wait 15 days, before you could own any "COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL."

This isn't even going to stop any crimes from happening, for pity sakes regular guns end up in criminal charges all the time, regardless of background check laws. How about some real change and effective measures, rather then virtue-signaling and theater illusion for a constituency?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Neither will 99% of 3D printed guns. Most 3D printed guns use metal parts, and ammo will likely be detected as well. Only single shot, entirely 3D printed guns with plastic ammo have any chance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

99% of 3D printed guns

100% of 3D printed guns.

Barrels and chambers are quite difficult to 3D print. But springs strong enough to set off primers, cartridge casings, and bullets must be made of metal. You can get clever with all of the above, but a plastic bullet would be laughably ineffective and even if you're going to go with electrical rather than mechanical ignition to eliminate the springs you're going to need metal batteries, metal wires, metal switches...

It is functionally impossible to make an all-plastic firearm. You'd be better off making a Jörg Sprave style crossbow or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Liberator is a completely 3D printed single-shot pistol that can shoot 9mm.

The Washbearis a completely 3D printed revolver.

3D printed ammo is currently in development.

They aren't very practical, but can likely go through metal detectors.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Except for the firing pins. And the ammo. So it's likely that they actually can't, unless the detectors at the facility in question are so detuned that they'd also allow through razors and small pocketknives.

Printed bullets would be like firing frozen paintballs at people. Injurious, yes. Deadly, most likely not.