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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

To be a bit more seriously, I'm not from the US but I'd be very careful. The MAGA movement might very well start rounding up trans people and whoever else they don't like. Something like a "Kristallnacht". They absolutely could turn the US into a fascist dictatorship. I hate the neoliberals too but from a tactical viewpoint you really should vote for Biden.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m not voting for a genocide enabler

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Do as you're told and eat your vegetables :D

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The U.S. is already a fascist dictatorship. It just has the luxury to have multiple parties of fascists. If trans people were to be rounded up, neither party would be interested in doing anything to stop it. We know this because literal children are regularly sent to privatized behavioral or conversion therapy camps that are essentially prisons, and neither party is very invested in shutting those down. So fuck off with your moralizing. Biden isn't strategic, nor is he vegetables, he's just a different brand of pop.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago

Yeah calling a man who is enabling a genocide "vegetables" is the most depraved infantilizing thing. How many dead Palestinians are needed for a healthy democracy meal exactly? That shit is pure evil

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Hey now, the democrats would absolutely use it as a way to fundraise and get elected. And then... sit on their hands and do half measures because the republicans are so mean and actually control everything! Ahh Lisa Slotkin voted with the fascists but you need to vote for her so the evil republicans don't control the senate! Oh wow, we don't have the senate, we just need more money and votes so we can undo all the damage!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

CW to protect innocent comrades from ire entirely directed at the above posterliterally kill yourself, comparing voting for a genocide-enabling, child-caging, wall-building, nazi-arming, abortion-banning rapist who is/was pen pals with Arch-Racist Strom Thurmond to 'eating your vegetables' is probably the most disgusting take i have ever witnessed, even from a natoid in the Great Satan. I will gladly eat any ban for saying this, please kill yourself and kill everyone around you, as many as you can, as soon as you possibly can, for the good of the world. If you understood anything about history, geopolitics, or the basics of logical thinking, you would understand the rage i am feeling right now. I wish you and your loved ones a very disembowelment. Happy Valentine's Day.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Do as you're told and eat your vegetables :D

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I live in a vital swing state, I will literally make it a point to spend election day playing video games and eating chips :D :D :D

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Vote 3rd party to make libs mad. They're still mad at Ralph Nader after all these years lol.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When the government starts treating us white people like they have always treated black people I will take comfort in knowing you and I are on the same rotting ship.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago

The democrats will not meaningfully oppose that happening.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The US is currently a fascist dictatorship. Both parties in the US function as a single unit uniparty. Don't forget they repealed abortion rights under a democrat. The US legislator (Congress) is corrupted and captured and their supreme court is not different from Iran with religious fundamentalists that have lifetime appointments with power to review any case law. It literally doesn't matter. The Kristallnacht is coming and no voting will stop it, just like voting never stopped the German Nazi's. Is idea here to just have the Democrats win every election forever?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago

not different from Iran

Hey, Iran’s had and kept abortion and trans rights for half a century, they never legalized money in politics. The US is so bad comparing it to something other than itself or the Nazis minimizes it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (5 children)

While the GOP is definitely become fascist, the US and the democrats is a neoliberal plutocracy, it's different from fascism (= a belief in inequality based on an mythological and essentialized identity). Say what you want about capitalism but they don't give a shit about your identity as long as they can sell you things or exploit you. Fascists don't like capitalism because it's too egalitarian - they want inequality and classes based on identity not money.

If you're an accelerationist you should also consider what the better tactical choice is to bring about a socialist revolution. Fascism is very stable and difficult to overthrow without the support of the military, and the technology to surveil and control people is much more advanced than in e.g. Nazi Germany. And you didn't have much of a resistance there either.

their supreme court is not different from Iran

I love the comparison to Iran's guardian council. To be fair their model of democracy / theocracy is build around resisting regime change / coup attempts from imperialist influences.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Fascists don’t like capitalism because it’s too egalitarian

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

Fascism is capitalism in decay. Your definition is silly and incomplete.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

Fascists absolutely want classes based on money. Fascism was devised as the union of labor and capital. Mussolini and the Syndicalists wanted to use national identity to "resolve" class contradictions, not make classes into national identities.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

fascism

egalitarian

Fascism is an ideology that is practically defined by a constant search for an Other, an outgroup, an underclass it can use as scapegoat. It is literally in a perpetual state of eating its own tail

Genuinely one of the most baffling things I've seen a Lemmyite post here

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Even allowing the distinction, the Democrats fuel fascism by funding far right Republican candidates and fear-mongering over immigrants, China, etc. Capitalists will typically side with fascism to defeat socialism because it allows (most of) them to maintain their status. And fear-mongering about foreigners gives them a scapegoat and distracts from domestic problems, while justifying the corrupt military-industrial complex which allows transferring public funds into private hands. The Democrats are 100% fascist enablers.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If only more people had voted for Hindenburg, he would have won the election and Hitler would have never come to power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Hindenburg was representing an institution more like the supreme court, similar to how the liberals on the supreme court in the US are currently doing mental gymnastics to allow an insurrectionist to run for president, he allowed Hitler to grab power. I get the joke but it's actually relevant in another way - failure to oppose fascism by well meaning (or edgy) people.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Never have I seen someone let Hindenburg off so easily. So what you are saying is you should vote to oppose fascism......so that the institution can then let them into power anyways? Hindenburg WON and he still put Hitler in power. So why vote Biden exactly?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

A vote for Biden is not a meaningful opposition to fascism you dipshit.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

My sibling in christ if you let a fascist come to power you are not "well meaning". The fact that you would even say something so silly implies that facisism is as unthreating to you as it was to them. In your failed attempt to defend voting for liberals to "prevent fascism" you explained exactly why voting for liberals will do nothing to prevent fascism just like it failed in Germany.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (5 children)

In what way was the President of the Weimar Republic representing an institution more like the Supreme Court?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago

Hi

Several US states basically have trans laws that amount to rounding up trans people already, these laws passing within the last year or two

Who's the current sitting president again? What party does he represent?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

as a trans person please don't use my identity as a shield to justify people voting for a genocide. thanks

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

Hey, we can apply longtermism too (and it won't even be that long, maybe a few decades) and say "That's unfortunately pretty likely no matter the timeline or specifically who gets elected when." Maybe if it happens in 2025-6 instead of 2045-6 there'll be less people around to genocide, and we might get a resolution to it quicker.

The US is certain to become a blatantly authoritarian state down the road, it is completely unsustainable and dependent on militarily destroying other places to launder money to its ruling class, then extracting surplus value from those places in the aftermath. It's currently a heavily obfuscated fascist state, at least to most observers just struggling to get by under its propaganda and the arcane systems it and its collaborators have created.