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[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Please let that sink in

Oh shut the fuck up

They're both going to put kids in cages and gut healthcare, who do you think you're kidding?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

To be a bit more seriously, I'm not from the US but I'd be very careful. The MAGA movement might very well start rounding up trans people and whoever else they don't like. Something like a "Kristallnacht". They absolutely could turn the US into a fascist dictatorship. I hate the neoliberals too but from a tactical viewpoint you really should vote for Biden.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago (10 children)

I’m not voting for a genocide enabler

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago

The democrats will not meaningfully oppose that happening.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The US is currently a fascist dictatorship. Both parties in the US function as a single unit uniparty. Don't forget they repealed abortion rights under a democrat. The US legislator (Congress) is corrupted and captured and their supreme court is not different from Iran with religious fundamentalists that have lifetime appointments with power to review any case law. It literally doesn't matter. The Kristallnacht is coming and no voting will stop it, just like voting never stopped the German Nazi's. Is idea here to just have the Democrats win every election forever?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago

not different from Iran

Hey, Iran’s had and kept abortion and trans rights for half a century, they never legalized money in politics. The US is so bad comparing it to something other than itself or the Nazis minimizes it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

While the GOP is definitely become fascist, the US and the democrats is a neoliberal plutocracy, it's different from fascism (= a belief in inequality based on an mythological and essentialized identity). Say what you want about capitalism but they don't give a shit about your identity as long as they can sell you things or exploit you. Fascists don't like capitalism because it's too egalitarian - they want inequality and classes based on identity not money.

If you're an accelerationist you should also consider what the better tactical choice is to bring about a socialist revolution. Fascism is very stable and difficult to overthrow without the support of the military, and the technology to surveil and control people is much more advanced than in e.g. Nazi Germany. And you didn't have much of a resistance there either.

their supreme court is not different from Iran

I love the comparison to Iran's guardian council. To be fair their model of democracy / theocracy is build around resisting regime change / coup attempts from imperialist influences.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (14 children)

Fascists don’t like capitalism because it’s too egalitarian

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

Fascism is capitalism in decay. Your definition is silly and incomplete.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

Fascists absolutely want classes based on money. Fascism was devised as the union of labor and capital. Mussolini and the Syndicalists wanted to use national identity to "resolve" class contradictions, not make classes into national identities.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

fascism

egalitarian

Fascism is an ideology that is practically defined by a constant search for an Other, an outgroup, an underclass it can use as scapegoat. It is literally in a perpetual state of eating its own tail

Genuinely one of the most baffling things I've seen a Lemmyite post here

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Even allowing the distinction, the Democrats fuel fascism by funding far right Republican candidates and fear-mongering over immigrants, China, etc. Capitalists will typically side with fascism to defeat socialism because it allows (most of) them to maintain their status. And fear-mongering about foreigners gives them a scapegoat and distracts from domestic problems, while justifying the corrupt military-industrial complex which allows transferring public funds into private hands. The Democrats are 100% fascist enablers.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (16 children)

If only more people had voted for Hindenburg, he would have won the election and Hitler would have never come to power.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago

Hi

Several US states basically have trans laws that amount to rounding up trans people already, these laws passing within the last year or two

Who's the current sitting president again? What party does he represent?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

as a trans person please don't use my identity as a shield to justify people voting for a genocide. thanks

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

Hey, we can apply longtermism too (and it won't even be that long, maybe a few decades) and say "That's unfortunately pretty likely no matter the timeline or specifically who gets elected when." Maybe if it happens in 2025-6 instead of 2045-6 there'll be less people around to genocide, and we might get a resolution to it quicker.

The US is certain to become a blatantly authoritarian state down the road, it is completely unsustainable and dependent on militarily destroying other places to launder money to its ruling class, then extracting surplus value from those places in the aftermath. It's currently a heavily obfuscated fascist state, at least to most observers just struggling to get by under its propaganda and the arcane systems it and its collaborators have created.