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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blackeco.com/post/25574

And since you won't be able to modify web pages, it will also mean the end of customization, either for looks (ie. DarkReader, Stylus), conveniance (ie. Tampermonkey) or accessibility.

The community feedback is... interesting to say the least.

It does seem that using Chrome (or Chrome based browsers) is just going to going to perpetuate this. Firefox has never been more important IMHO.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just block ads with a local recursive DNS resolver.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't help for things like YouTube ads or the like where the ads are delivered from the same domain. Also the attester may not validate your environment as safe. I didn't do s deep deep dive into what may be part of the attestation, but resolution of various domains (or ensuring they return some specific value) could easily make it's way in if they wanted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is speculation. DNS is a tool enterprise uses to manage networks. It's unlikely that Google will upend this so ads can be watched.

There's a risk that IT departments nationwide would just deploy Edge or Firefox instead of Chrome to retain the ability to manage and secure networks. This is not what Google wants.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They literally already do this with YouTube ads, what are you talking about? This is a thing that already happens.

Edit: there are already sites I can't visit due to work blocking some domains and those sites have the "disable your ad blocker" with no way to say no thanks. It isn't google that will break it. It'll be an attester and it'll be the site that chooses that attester.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is a social problem not a personal one. why are you proposing personal hacks already?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You're confused. DNS servers are the backbone of the internet, not a "hack." Also, this isn't a social problem. Poverty is a social problem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Out of curiosity what would you recommend? I'm aware of PiHole, but many struggle to get hold of a pi. Any other good options?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You can run pihole on any linux system, not sure how compatibility is with windows/macos. I used to just run it locally. It also has some speed benefits to run it on the same machine that consumes it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There are a number of pie hole in a container options as well

https://github.com/pi-hole/docker-pi-hole/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

With a little work involving Wireguard, you could setup a pihole on DigitalOcean for between $6-$7 ($4-$5 if you use their cheapest server, but I want to tinker a bit so wanted just a tad more power) a month. It's split tunnel configuration, so it only handles DNS. Essentially, no matter where I go, I can connect to the pihole and get its functionality. I get it on my phone no matter I'm on wifi or cell network. If something is blocked that I need real quick, I don't even need to configure the pihole, just disconnect from Wireguard temporarily. So, it'll run you the cost of the suggested retail cost of a pi4 and accessories basically each year.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

good suggestion!