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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

I feel like double u is cheating since that's just b again.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue 'f' they don't press hard but they lightly touch

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Bro what are you doing with your lips? "F" is top teeth on lower lip.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

What the pfuck are you pfrattling on about?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My front lip is over my teeth when I say it, and it is touching the bottom lip.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

you can also form an /s/ with various parts of the tongue and mouth but it's generally held to be an alveolar bladal fricative.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That would interrupt airflow would it not?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not if your lips just touch lightly in the middle and the air flows around the sides.

Maybe it’s a regional thing, but that’s also how I say that sound.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could be regional yeah. Interesting!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah - I mean, I can say an f-word like “fountain” without lowering my upper lip and (to my ears at least) it sounds almost the same if not identical, but I have to do it consciously and it feels unnatural.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

You don't purse the lips together, they're lightly touching allowing air to go through

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

W still leaves an opening tho

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They're probably pronouncing it as "Double-U"...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

well it only touches at the B sound and we already had B so...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

as a phoneme, it's a bilabial approximant - meaning the lips form the sound by moving close but not touching and then parting again

compare to the palatal approixmant /y/ formed by the root of the tongue performing a similar action with the soft palate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

just like in "We"

You don't pronounce "we" as "double ue" do you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Like ... Have you ever read a word with w in it?

I kinda know what you are getting at - if you dictate a word by pronouncing each letter separately you need to add stuff to each one to make it stand out - but Jesus Christ, what a question.

Hodoubleu is the doublueather today? Only a fedoubleu oubleuhite clouds in a clear blue sky.

Thanks for making me laugh!

Edit: in German it is pronounced "we", with the e like in ketchup.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I vote we change it in English to be pronounced like in German. It always bugged me that it's the only multisyllabic letter name. Along the same lines, we should rename seven to sev.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The time save when pronouncing "www" is incredible. 🙃

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I sometimes like reading or listening to stories of people scamming scammers. He used this exact thing to really confuse the scammer.

"Please type in double u double double u...."
"Alright, I typed in double u double u double..... It says page not found" (i.e. uuuuuu)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In German y is not pronounced as "why", but instead as "Ypsilon". You win some you lose some I guess.

More infuriating is "e" - it's pronounced as "I" ffs! But when in a word only if it's the first letter or something. Otherwise it's pronounced as "e" as it rightfully should be!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't say "no opening", it just says "lips touch". My lips can touch without completely closing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

ok but for "we" the opening is large enough for them to not touch at all

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bruh what are you smoking? My lips don't touch for W. They don't even move half the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

They do for double u

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I get 6, yours plus F and Y.