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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 8 months ago (1 children)

BRB, on my way to withdraw all funding for an UN agency with 30.000 employees because 12 of them have been denounced by Israel.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Have they provided any proof yet?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago

They don’t need to provide any proof

https://theintercept.com/2024/02/07/gaza-israel-netanyahu-propaganda-lies-palestinians/

[+] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

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[+] [email protected] -13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The israeli “evidence” has been leaked and confirmed fake

Are the quotes you provided supposed to support the "confirmed fake" part of your comment?

Because "has not seen proof" and "provides no evidence" do not equate to "confirmed fake".

The number of very online people who think countries share their intelligence with every Channel 4 news who asks is a little surprising.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No the evidence is fake. Evidence means that you can proof something happened which israel clearly can't.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That’s bold considering all the things people on this site were so sure about only to be proven wrong weeks later.

For me, I’ll wait for the investigation to finish.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The "evidence" was already leaked and contained no proof whatsoever. Waiting must be convenient. Are we going to see the Hamas base under the hospital soon?

And it turned out israel lied almost every single time about almost everything.

Let's not forget

But there is a problem with the gut-wrenching narratives that have bolstered the underlying justification for the slaughter of Gaza: They are either complete fabrications or have not been substantiated with a shred of evidence. Many have been thoroughly disproven by major Israeli media outlets.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hamas had command tunnel under U.N. Gaza headquarters, Israeli military says

Reporters on the closely escorted trip entered a shaft next to a school on the periphery of the U.N. compound, descending to the concrete-lined tunnel. Twenty minutes of walking through the stifling hot, narrow and occasionally winding passage brought them underneath UNRWA Headquarters, an army lieutenant-colonel leading the tour said.

So, yeah. I think I’ll wait for the investigation to conclude.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

No need there is proof the IDF lies about all tunnels and where they go.

https://youtu.be/34CxzZtVxnE?t=3m18s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I guess we’ll ignore the fact that the story I linked has journalists being walked through one. Y’know, everything CNN was asking for there and more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you watch the video I linked, which you didn't, they told CNN that they walked underneath the graveyard which was a proven lie.

The IDF lies. If they can't even show their evidence on video after securing the area it's extremely obvious there was zero truth to their claim.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

The evidence provided by Israel alleging that roughly a dozen UNRWA staffers participated in Hamas’s October 7 terror onslaught is “highly credible,” US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Monday, as media outlets published additional details on the implicated employees, including photos from an Israeli dossier. “We haven’t had the ability to investigate [the allegations] ourselves. But they are highly, highly credible,” Blinken said during a press conference

https://www.timesofisrael.com/blinken-says-evidence-of-unrwa-staffers-oct-7-involvement-highly-highly-credible/

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Until the information is verified by neutral third parties, this gives me some WMDs in Iraq vibes.

Both Israel and the US have a history of lying to justify war crimes and crimes against humanity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I used to have faith that bad people will eventually pay for their crimes. That the weight of their sins will crush them eventually. But these past decades have taught me that the new response to crushing weight of sin is to simply get a stronger spine.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Otoh, Blinken and Biden have parroted everything the IDF feeds them until independent journalists debunk it.

So we've cut funding without conducting any investigation. Great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Remember the beheaded babies?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

“We haven’t had the ability to investigate [the allegations] ourselves. But they are highly, highly credible,” Blinken said during a press conference

This sounds like something The Onion would have written.