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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't like it either. Age/karma requirements work under an inherently flawed idea, that you're guilty (i.e. a shitposter) unless proved contrariwise (by using an old or karma-ful enough account), and damn easy to avoid if you're determined to shit on a community.

IMO better ideas revolve around

  • Decreasing the surface of attack. In this case: only text posts allowed, there's barely any legitimate reason to allow image posts here anyway.
  • Proper tools so mods can upstream rule violation to the admins. I'm almost certain that admins can see the IP of the posters, they should use that info to ban the posters alongside it. Perhaps in some situations the mods could even be granted temporary rights to see the IP of the posters? (Just an idea.)
  • Proper tools so mods have an easier time spotting potentially problematic content.

Sadly they all depend on the software, and Lemmy isn't exactly known for having good mod tools.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just the IP bans don't sound good. CG-NAT, VPNs, public networks, school networks, etc.. makes a lot of people share the same IP.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I'm aware that IP bans inconvenience users who did nothing wrong. But I feel like this can be alleviated:

  • make the IP ban temporary. The idea is to force the spammer to get another IP or give up, not to use the IP itself as the enforcement.
  • IP-ban only account creation, not activity. So even if you're using the same IP, as long as you already have an account, you should be unaffected.

But... well, we're back into "lemmy needs better built-in mod tools" territory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Then hosts need to ban VPNs.

They need to use cookies that attach a unique identifier to each machine to enforce bans per machine. Hash the cookie so it can't be edited. If a user clears their cookies, they need to put in a special private key to get back into their account.

Or just make users scan in ID or pay with a credit card to gain membership.

None of those ideas are perfect but they are needed for better ban enforcement overall anyway.