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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I'm looking to expand my printer lineup, and have been looking at kits from magic phoenix for both the Voron Trident and the v2.4R2.

Is there any real benefit to one over the other, or is it more a preference thing?

Edit: if anyone know of other kits, preferably available in the EU, I would also like to take a look at those.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Looked into this myself, here's a brief summary of my thoughts:

V2 has the flying gantry, Trident has the moving base. Primary difference is that since the base (i.e., print surface) is physically secured and rigid to the frame, bed meshes and other alignments should be more consistent. In other words, run a mesh once (or a few times for each of different bed temperatures) and never need to create the mesh again. All else being equal, the flying gantry is a more idealized option since the base in contact with the print is stationary, so very little force is ever seen by the model itself (short of small x and y forces while printing).

Now the trade off is the significantly added complexity of 4 independent z-motors supporting the gantry. In addition, this requires a gantry alignment macro each time the motors are powered off/on since the gantry sags asymmetrically if the motors aren't locked (requiring power).

I have built a V2.4 and found it great, but I don't know if I personally have found it worth it to have the fixed bed and additional motors. It's nice to say I did, and it works, but if I needed to make another, I would absolutely go Trident. Cheaper and simpler, and it's not an ideal world so many of the supposed benefits don't really make a big difference.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The weird thing is, the trident kit from magic phoenix is almost $100 more expensive than the V2.4 kit.

Automatic levelling of the gantry with a macro wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me, as long as it will give me consistent results without manual adjustments every time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

One thing this overlooks is that the rigid mounted bed of the V2 causes thermal expansion issues. There's a lot of really bad lore that gets repeated in the community re: bed heater power because the V2 tends to want to taco the bed if it's heated too quickly.

The WhoppingOrchard kinematic mounts are a solid option for addressing the issue.