this post was submitted on 28 Jan 2024
145 points (98.0% liked)
Fediverse
28503 readers
350 users here now
A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).
If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to [email protected]!
Rules
- Posts must be on topic.
- Be respectful of others.
- Cite the sources used for graphs and other statistics.
- Follow the general Lemmy.world rules.
Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
What's LW's reason for staying on 18.5? Is it client compatibility? Not looking to grab pitchforks, genuinely curious.
Edit: Nvm, from https://lemmy.ml/post/11122503:
Wish they would go into more detail, but ya
Yea it's one of those awkward things I suppose, where the instance (.world) is big enough that its operational concerns are kinda at odds with where lemmy as a project is up to.
With that many users, who also kinda expect a more reddit-style experience AFAICT, a certain amount of professionalism, stability and, in effect, slowness, is expected. And that's great.
But meanwhile lemmy is a small essentially underfunded project doing its best with a small group (2 main and a few voluntary on the side), which means bugs and then bug fixes and tweaking until things work ... all of which works well over a distributed array of smaller instances so that no single node is a major let alone fatal point of failure.
And so we've got this situation now where you could be critical of how lemmy.world relates to the bug fixing and testing load on the lemmy-verse. lemmy.world is likely the best funded instance (last I checked their donations exceed their infra needs) and yet the job of testing and working through bugs is offloaded onto all of the other smaller instances while they wait until it's all been ironed out. I don't know if it's a fair critique in the end, but it certainly seems to be there and worth considering.
Just chiming in to say they lost my donations and me as a user for federating with Threads. I'm over on feddit.de now because they're the only instance I could find defederated from Threads and the tankies.
Edit: Have to edit this comment because I'm laughing at all of the butthurt users who are downvoting me because they don't like my personal decision.
Isn't one of the new features the ability to block instances at a user level?
It's different on other platforms (like mastodon) but on lemmy, it only blocks posts from the blocked instance. Users from Threads would still be interacting in comments with the user who blocks their instance.
Regardless, I believe they should be defederated by instance admins on ethical grounds. Meta/FB have run unethical, uninformed experiments on their users, including purposefully inducing depression in their users.
The fact that Meta has assisted in genocide should be grounds for defederation by instances which claim to protect and care about their users.
Meta's platforms have also played a key role in radicalizing users, and they purposefully marketed Threads to far-right extremists.
Here's my argument with citations
There's also good arguments to defederate and block them from the fedivers based on EEE.
If an instance's admins claim they care about protecting their users and providing a safe, healthy community but are federated with Threads, then they are either uninformed or liars.