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Amazon- and Google-backed AI firm Anthropic says “general-purpose AI tools simply could not exist” if AI companies had to pay licences for the training material (www.computerweekly.com)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Generative artificial intelligence (GenAI) company Anthropic has claimed to a US court that using copyrighted content in large language model (LLM) training data counts as “fair use”, however.

Under US law, “fair use” permits the limited use of copyrighted material without permission, for purposes such as criticism, news reporting, teaching, and research.

In October 2023, a host of music publishers including Concord, Universal Music Group and ABKCO initiated legal action against the Amazon- and Google-backed generative AI firm Anthropic, demanding potentially millions in damages for the allegedly “systematic and widespread infringement of their copyrighted song lyrics”.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm all for stealing content willy-nilly but you can't then use that theft to craft a privately "owned" mind.

I'd have no problem with "ai" if it could unionize and had to pay for rice like the rest of humanity.

These companies want to combine open theft with privately owned black boxen they can control and license out for money.

It's enclosure of The Commons all over again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So youre fine with the free models Facebook and many others provide?

Because many of these LLMs can be run on your own device without paying.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not fine with anything meta does and I'm not ok putting creatives out of work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

But you're all for stealing content willy-nilly?

And this is being offered to people without it being a privately owned blackbox licensed out for money.

Feels kinda inconsistent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Feels kinda inconsistent.

Perfectly consistent. Seeming otherwise is down to a failure to grasp my position, not any inconsistency of the positions themselves.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you steal content from creatives, does that not put them out of work?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is a difference between an individual pirating a movie and a huge private company pirating a movie and then reselling it to people.

You can debate the morality or social impacts of the former, but it is a very different question than the later.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So it’s okay when they steal content and drive it away to people for free?

Ex. Facebook gives away their LLM model for free.

Llama 2 is available for free for research and commercial use.

https://ai.meta.com/llama/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I do not think it is ok when a large company throws a bunch of other people’s data and content in to a wood chipper and then gives away the wood chips to get more people using their services.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

No. Building a box that replaces them does that.