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please post any subsequent updates here unless they're huge happenings. i just woke up and half our news front page is updates which is nice but also A Lot and most of these don't have to be their own thread

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Zero chances it will end the war. Russians are used to swapping out regimes all the time.

This is just an infighting between two criminals, whoever wins is not going to be better for anyone.

Wanger is war fighting force, they're not a peace-keeping unit, they'll keep the war going if it benefits them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Russia pulled out of WW1 because the Bolsheviks successfully took power and didn’t want to fight. Let’s hope history repeats itself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Things are gonna get worse before they, uh, get worse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same regime has been in power 24 years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's nothing in the whole scheme. We're talking centuries here, not the last 24 years. Stalin, Gorbachev, Lenin, Bolsheviks, Romanov, Czars, Cath the Great, etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Ok you could say the same thing about France. Also you repeated the same groups multiple times. The Romanovs were Tsars. Stalin Lenin and Gorbachev were all Bolsheviks, and although there was a struggle when Stalin took over Lenin to Stalin was just the passing of the torch between one revolutionary leader to the next. So really your long list of regime changes were: Catherine the Great from 1796, the Tsars who lost power in 1917, and Gorbachev who brought the USSR down in 1991. I'll give you that Russia went through a period of intense chaos in the 90s between the dissolution of the USSR and when Putin took over. But 3 regime changes over 250 years isn't that much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think it would though - they have limited supplies and people, and if they take Russia they'll need all of that to keep it. Fighting a second war at the same time would be more costly than it's worth I think.

They're not used to running a country, either. That's a different skillset than their usual, so they may run into extra problems there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It doesn't benefit them. They've lost tons of people and they're up against a determined adversary swimming in NATO firepower.