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All leftists are in tears, Biden is a center-right Capitalist. Leftists should vote for Biden, but they can understandably be upset that they have to vote for a Neoliberal just to prevent a fascist, while liberals and fascists get to gleefully trot to the ballot box and vote for someone that actually represents their views.
You want leftists to side with you happily? Maybe try appealing to leftists, instead of running on the basis of not being a fascist.
We're headed for another 2000 election. A handful of campaign flaks are going to Brooks Brothers Riot a few counties in a red state with the blessing of a governor hostile to the very idea of democratic governance. Biden is going to meekly surrender after the election is straight up stolen on national television by far-right courts. And then the national media is going to find the real villain - not the thugs terrorizing polling places nationwide, not the nerds hemming and hawing about Rule of Law while the books are rewritten under their noses, not the national media fabricating bullshit smears 24/7 to keep the race up as a spectacle - but a dorky little 3rd party environmentalist nerd who dared to suggest that better things are possible.
Biden will shit the bed and Trump will run out the back door with the mattress, while every screaming Twitter avi will point the finger at this cycle's Ralph Nader.
I mean yeah. That's exactly it. One party is running on not changing anything in particular but keeping everyone exactly where they are, and the other is running on the idea of hurting people and will actually do it with power.
People don't like to feel trapped in a bad situation even if others feel great about being trapped in a good one. The feeling of being unable to do anything or even trying to do anything will so much more disenfranchise the vote base than an Internet comment will but it's definitely compounding.
But when you have a party run on a promise and meet their goals then it looks appealing and people will think they can sand off the rough edges cause at least there is movement, ignoring that the rough edges are what grabs more angry people.
I actually don't see this election going well without Biden slamming into the fight like a WWE star trying to be a fan favorite and actually getting a win. Or standing up at least and taking the hits to the face to prove they care. Apathy and comfort, the plagues of the Democrats right now.
Out of the people in this thread who are complaining about Biden and the Democrats, how many of them have joined the party, organized, and have pushed to make changes from inside the party?
You know the answer, it's none of them. Because most of them are here to make sure Trump wins, and the rest are those who are susceptible to that type of propaganda.
Meanwhile, Democrats push for a two-state solution: https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/01/24/congress/reasserting-the-two-state-solution-00137623
Republicans push for genocide:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/10/florida-republican-michelle-salzman-palestine
I mean I actually helped the campaign for several local government positions, including judges and State attorney. When all of those failed I actually tried running for a position myself getting with a "progressive election aid" group who told me I was too poor to run and that they would help me if I had some rich relatives I could reach out to for financial support, and then after that joined a socialist group that fell apart with no action available because there was no available pushback on the government with every position pretty much going to incumbents. I participate in debates. Email and mail my representatives, and participate in rallies.
I also criticize Biden.
You are really just saying what you want to think of the people who complain but not actually accepting that everyone is a complex person with their own fucked reasons for anything they do. It might be simple or complex but I doubt even the majority care that they are making Trump win they just want to lament and feel seen. Like everyone else.
Painting with a broad brush is easy but it misses the details. Individuals pushing against a larger system is going to result in practically nothing but somehow we fail to organize because we don't get results at the smaller levels.
You can't just blame the people who don't know better, while ignoring that little effort is made to push them back against this apathy. It takes the people who believe in this helping get those voices heard too not just told to shut up and get in line.
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