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Ukrainian-born model winning Miss Japan re-ignites identity debate (www.bbc.com)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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"There have been racial barriers, and it has been challenging to be accepted as Japanese."

That's what a tearful Carolina Shiino said in impeccable Japanese after she was crowned Miss Japan on Monday.

The 26-year-old model, who was born in Ukraine, moved to Japan at the age of five and was raised in Nagoya.

She is the first naturalised Japanese citizen to win the pageant, but her victory has re-ignited a debate on what it means to be Japanese.

While some recognised her victory as a "sign of the times", others have said she does not look like what a "Miss Japan" should.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

were identified by their neighbors as members of a different ethnic group.

There's simply nothing good that comes from this, except a comforting sense of superiority from any majority group, that is not necessarily deserved.

We have Amish here in the US, that have lived cloistered lives for centuries now, keeping to their own culture. But when you meet one out-and-about, you don't necessarily immediately jump to "Amish", even though they are pretty recognizable. They're just accepted, as a normal part of American society in this area, that belongs. Their Amish identity is simply not very important, nothing important comes from focusing on it. Since they're common, you just get used to them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There’s simply nothing good that comes from this

Oh, it was certainly very bad for my ancestors, but the lesson there isn't "It's better to assimilate," but rather "Even if you do everything to assimilate, your neighbors won't accept you, so remember that you're different. At least that way, you'll be prepared."

Since [the Amish are] common, you just get used to them.

I wouldn't say that - IMO, since the Amish are very rare, they're seen as an amusing curiosity rather than as any sort of threat. If they really were common, there probably would have been more hostility.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

It's regional. Your experiences wherever you live are not reflective of the experiences of people that live nearby to Amish communities, where they are not a rare or amusing curiosity. They're just the people down the highway a bit.