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I would generally agree on the idea that “corruption” isn’t really real, and that bad outcomes from poor or malicious leadership are the result of systemic failures, not individuals not being good enough.
I would, however, disagree with the notion that the problem is that people who break the rules of a system will inevitably win against those upholding the rules of the system. I reject the notion that there are real rules that can be broken, there may be a set of rules written down that people are told to fallow or else but that is not what is actually influencing people’s decisions, at least not directly. Instead there is a set of incentives and perceptions, If a set of perceptions and incentives create a bad outcome, then those are what need to be changed.
Simply eliminating these systems that allow for concentration of power won’t solve the issue ether, as new systems will come into existence that will fill the power vacuum left behind.
I agree that external and internal motivators are essential to change behavior. And to support your point, that's part of why anarchists who join social movements try to foster the use of social force and self-managed organization to serve as "revolutionary gymnastics." The idea is to help others gain confidence in their ability to change the world by changing their social and economic circumstances via political conflict. It is easier to foster a culture and politics of mutual aid when it works!
Also, the issue with the power vacuum is super important to cover. Anark has already covered that in a video. Based on the movement's history, the horizontal armed forces work, but working towards the social insertion and weaponry necessary to cover that area is challenging. If not the most difficult part.
In the sense of rules, I don't know where that topic is covered in English in the sense of anarchy perspective to the law. Do you have anything that covers that topic? So far I've found the work of Anarquismo frente al derecho that covers the concept of contracts vs law and the historical perspectives of the classics. It throws some topic of "anarchism and justice".
Take care friend 👋