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The exchange is about Meta's upcoming ActivityPub-enabled network Threads. Meta is calling for a meeting, his response is priceless!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Idm meta joining tbh. At least this means your friends can be on something and you won't be obligated to use a meta app to talk to them, peer pressure, etc

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until they pull an iOS sms situation, where non-iOS applications are missing their "exclusive features" and go as far as to break conversations through incompatibility, and then your friends are badgering you to "just join the 21st century and get an iphone already," but with Meta-branded apps. There's no way in hell Meta will play nicely with anything outside their ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly, they might play along in the beginning, even stretch it by putting all the non-Meta conversations in green text. But once their instance becomes the largest one, they'll start making it difficult for everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I do mind. EEE is a well established strategy. Is time won't be different than every other time so massive tech company pretended to embrace open standards.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I don't entirely disagree. An open standard should be open. I am expecting shenanigans from Meta from the classic "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" playbook though.

To avoid a Google XMPP repeat, I think the anti-Meta disfederation alliance might be the right path. Some instances can just outright refuse to Federate with corporate instances, others could have strict conditions, and more laissez faire instances will always have a backstop if (when) Meta starts playing badly.

It's tough to say though. Microsoft was the largest contributors to Linux for a few years, out of self interest. Optimizing Linux for running on Azure. Still, the Linux kernel guarded itself well, and Linux is fine.

Of course in the Linux kernel, you have lots of large corporations "cooperating" in some sort of standoff. If Meta, Twitter, Google, Microsoft all started using ActivityPub, you could find a similar situation emerge. The popularity of Gmail doesn't let Google break email so badly that it doesn't work with Outlook (or Yahoo, AOL, etc).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Your first mistake is setting a minimum expectation for a Meta product. They've not promised it will do any of that and they already have you thinking it will based on nothing but rumor.