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Abigail Disney, Brian Cox and Valerie Rockefeller among signatories of open letter condemning inequality

More than 250 billionaires and millionaires are demanding that the political elite meeting for the World Economic Forum in Davos introduce wealth taxes to help pay for better public services around the world.

“Our request is simple: we ask you to tax us, the very richest in society,” the wealthy people said in an open letter to world leaders. “This will not fundamentally alter our standard of living, nor deprive our children, nor harm our nations’ economic growth. But it will turn extreme and unproductive private wealth into an investment for our common democratic future.”

The rich signatories from 17 countries include Disney heir Abigail Disney; Brian Cox who played fictional billionaire Logan Roy in Succession; actor and screenwriter Simon Pegg; and Valerie Rockefeller , an heir to the US dynasty.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago
  1. They don't mean it.

  2. Their owned politicians won't do it.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Abigail Disney absolutely does mean it. She gives away a ton of money and is highly critical of Disney. Sure, she could give it all away or she could use her money to influence politicians to actually help while also donating a ton.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I'm still on the fence about her. It's been proven charity from millionaires and billionaires is a drop in the ocean compared to what fair taxation of their wealth could do for better organized government programs with farther reach. Not to mention charitable donations can be used for tax write-offs.

Part of me applauds her work but on the other hand I often wonder if there's some kind of savior complex with these ppl.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

We should absolutely not be encouraging ANYONE to use the US’ legal corruption, regardless of what it’s for.

Lobbying, ALL LOBBYING, should be banned. It is corruption. P E R I O D.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Why do you think they are saying it then? Why not say nothing like the rest of them?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

There's no way of knowing how many actually mean it. I'll sure some of them do and others don't.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Some of them realize, that the masses are getting angry. We're getting out our pitchforks, torches, and guillotines. Angry people will start to fuck up shit. January 6, BLM protests, etc, are all prime example of what people are willing to do when they get angry.

If everyone's option is either continued to get screwed or fuck shit up for a possibility of a better future. People will generally pick the fuck shit up option.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Some of them do mean it. They know that places with less wealth inequality are better places to live, even for the rich.

The problem is that even if they were willing to donate their entire wealth to the government, they're only one of hundreds of billionaires, so their personal sacrifice isn't going to change much. They'd just be one of the non-rich in a place with huge wealth inequality. So, before they do that, they want assurances that everyone else will do it too.

So, it comes down to whether politicians will do it. Many politicians won't either because they're rich themselves, or they're "owned" by ultra-rich people who don't want their hoards touched. But, even if the politicians were interested, it's a tough issue because of offshore tax shelters and places like Monaco. When France tried to tax wealth, many of the wealthy just moved to Monaco, or to another place where their wealth was secure. And, as much as it sucks having the ultra-wealthy in the country not paying enough in taxes, it's worse for them to take all their wealth and leave the country entirely.

The only thing that would really work is for the rich countries of the world to band together and agree on a minimum wealth tax, and then to deny entry to anybody who fled to a tax-shelter country. But, that would never happen both because it's too ambitious and too many politicians are owned by the rich. And, because it's a prisoner's dilemma situation where there's a huge incentive to be the country that defects from the deal and welcomes all the billionaires.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Even if it were to happen, taxation is a game. And like ANY game, if you throw enough effort at it, it can be beaten. The 1% can afford to throw that effort at any tax rules you can devise. They are quite confident they can beat the game no matter what you do.

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