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They voted for a rapist last time, and the time before, why would that stop them now? These allegations aren't new, and we've known since epstein was caught that Trump frequented the lolita express, and trump himself said epstein was a 'good friend'.
Why would that change any of these peoples minds now? They've had ample time to educate themselves, if ever they wanted to, and I doubt they're voting based on trump anyway as much as 'muh elephant better than ur donkey'.
You're not trying to change everyone's minds, you're trying to repeat what happened four years ago, when he lost, even before he was found liable for rape and insurrection in courts.
They didn't vote for a rapist, they voted for a bully.
He was, in 2020, in a better position than he is in now, and now if you debate anyone, you can mention that Trump is a rapist, committed direct election fraud and insurrection.
Which makes him a poor candidate.
Nothing has changed other than the government killing trumps 'good friend' epstein to hide his client list
Non-sequitir and unsubstantiated, but I'll agree that your theory is very entertaining and forcefully circumstantial.
I'll add more to the theory: Given the number of times epstein met with the former prime minister of isreal in his personal home stateside (and specifically never at the island), it's extremely likely that the reason epstein was killed is because he was working with the CIA and Mossad to run a blackmail ring of the richest and most influential people in the world.
Don't misunderstand my reticence to imply that these things cannot happen, conspiracies obviously often occur and have tons of historical substantial weight, I just prefer my conspiracies incontrovertible.
Why do you believe that the CIA and mossaf specifically were running this pedophile ring with Epstein?
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200106-jeffrey-epstein-was-blackmailing-politicians-for-israels-mossad-new-book-claims/
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/08/23/long-before-epstein-sex-traffickers-spy-agencies/
https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/
https://www.mintpressnews.com/cia-israel-mossad-jeffrey-epstein-orwellian-nightmare/261692/
the following aren't directly related to epstein, but just evidence of what's happened in history: https://www.activistpost.com/2017/07/largest-sex-trafficking-ring-western-us-busted-children-openly-sold-plain-sight.html
https://gizadeathstar.com/2016/10/arrests-us-sex-trafficking-ring-leaders/
https://humansbefree.com/2019/10/is-the-mormon-church-behind-a-worldwide-child-sex-trafficking-ring-operating-out-of-arizona.html
Okay so like circumstantial, proximal attribution.
I get it, I just don't think it helps to assert suspicions as fact until those facts are less malleable.
I have not read that first book, have you read that book?
I did specifically note the word "theory" when I posited my assertion.
Additionally the book is called "Epstein: Dead men tell no tales" and I can't make a 100% confirmation that the books integrity has been maintained as I read a translated version (overview here: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48720807-epstein), the overview presented by the book is, in my opinion, extremely watered down and appears to have been censored, either in context or content, to provide a minimally invasive view of what happens behind closed doors.
The book could be used as a foray into questioning authority, but not as a reason to riot or scream, more as a thought provoking and reflecting work to allow others to look more seriously at those they've allowed into power.
It's not as though it's terribly 'eye opening' as I've worked with various governments and government related organizations so not a lot phazes me any more, but it isn't something I would recommend against reading.
Yea, fair.
If any circumstantial conspiracy deserves to be looked at, it's the one where the multi-millionaire friendly with presidents is arrested for his private island pedophile ring, put on suicide watch, and still commits an unrecorded, unwitnessed suicide before he has the opportunity to make any statements.
So, why do you believe this to be true?
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200106-jeffrey-epstein-was-blackmailing-politicians-for-israels-mossad-new-book-claims/
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/08/23/long-before-epstein-sex-traffickers-spy-agencies/
https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/
https://www.mintpressnews.com/cia-israel-mossad-jeffrey-epstein-orwellian-nightmare/261692/
the following aren't directly related to epstein, but just evidence of what's happened in history: https://www.activistpost.com/2017/07/largest-sex-trafficking-ring-western-us-busted-children-openly-sold-plain-sight.html
https://gizadeathstar.com/2016/10/arrests-us-sex-trafficking-ring-leaders/
https://humansbefree.com/2019/10/is-the-mormon-church-behind-a-worldwide-child-sex-trafficking-ring-operating-out-of-arizona.html
Thank you for the reading material. I'm not judging. Just because something seems like it shouldn't be correct doesn't mean my perception of the topic is right. Could just mean I'm ignorant. Same goes the other way around though. I feel we all need to be a bit more open.