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It's not a non-issue. EVs still tear up roads, drive into telephone poles, signs, fences and houses, and kill people.
Their promise was, "Well, at least they don't burn oil." But it turns out they can't even do that well.
Please stop defending them and encourage people to support scalable mass transit and bicycles instead.
You may think that, "That doesn't sell views." but some other channels don't agree...
@[email protected] I'm sorry but I don't have patience for this attitude whatsoever.
Our built world is incredibly car-centric. This is bad! I'm on record as saying that. But we're not gonna be tearing it down any time soon, and progress on more mass transit and even bike infrastructure is frustratingly slow. Much too slow to have the impacts we need now.
I frankly find it insulting that you presume I don't also want more mass transit and bike infrastructure.
@[email protected] This is quintessential black-and-white thinking at its very worst.
I need a car and will need one for the foreseeable future. Many people are in the same boat.
Getting mad at folks who advocate for harm reduction given the realities of the day as some sort of purity test is not how you win over folks. You'll probably make some extremists happy, maybe even radicalize a few folks to your position.
But this sort of purity-testing nonsense never leads to great places.
@[email protected] Calm down. All I asked was that you don't defend them.
@[email protected] ... oh right, all you asked was for me to not make content illustrating that so much of the bad press out there isn't real.
What to you actually want, a reduction in climate emissions as fast as possible? Or should we all just keep buying gas-powered cars while our politicians twiddle their thumbs and NIMBYs do their best to block even the most meager of proposals?
@[email protected] First of all, you have no evidence that the story wasn't true. Second, the difference between everyone using gas or electric is very small, especially when you consider tire and brake residue.
But you jump to the defense of the EV anyways, even making a buck off the video.
All I'm saying is that EVs don't deserve it. Spend your time and energy on something else please.
@[email protected] Did I suggest that story's not true? Is this a Mastodon threading thing?
Or are you really just... extremely anti-EV?
I can't tell, but either way - your suggestion has been noted but, I should warn you, will be ignored.
@[email protected] I suspect that you're mixing up respondents. You /did/ say, "...that so much of the bad press out there isn't real." I never mentioned the press.
@[email protected] What, specifically, are you telling me I should be defending against, then?
I'm so fucking confused.
@[email protected] I usually solve this problem by re-reading the thread and trying to figure out where I got off track; not asking someone to repeat themselves endlessly.
@[email protected] So.
You came out of nowhere, told me I shouldn't defend EVs because of how bad cars in general are and that "instead" I should be advocating for better mass transit and bike infrastructure.
"Instead" implies one cannot do both - which I flatly reject.
@[email protected] You better believe this rubs me the wrong way. And I think you know you are being provocative. Deliberately.
If you don't, god help you.
@[email protected] If one has the time and energy to do both, sure, but I've watched your channel for a while and haven't seen a single alternative transportation post...
@[email protected] Then you haven't been paying enough attention.
I've mentioned the need for more than just cars several times - have I made a video specifically about mass transit? No. But I don't really intend do because that's not my niche.
At this point, I'm ending this conversation.