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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd say, 10 years is more than enough, the device is practically unusable after that, even if it's still working.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

the device is practically unusable after that, even if it’s still working.

Not if you can change the battery...

I am having to retire my 7 year old S5, which still works perfectly, because 3G networks are being switched off in a couple of months.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The S5 is from 2014 which this year makes 10 years.

Pons_Aelius says: "the device is practically unusable after that, even if it's still working."

You say: "Not if you can change the battery"

AND THEN YOU GO ON to tell that your 10 year old phone is working but practically unusable, confirming in the most spectacular way, that Pons was right all along, even matching your very own experience to the point and date! And you still started your argument against it.

It's amazing really. Bravisimo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It won't work with modern apps in about 3 or 4 years, or even if it does, it'll be so slow, it would practically be unusable.

I have an Asus Zenfone 3 Max from 2016. It has 8 cores @ 900MHz and 3GB of RAM. I only use it for BT auido streaming (play music on a modified audio system from the 90's), that's it. It can play YT videos at Full HD, but searching and screen flipping is so slow, it's practically unusable. Everything is generally slow on it, even browsing. It takes like 10+ seconds to load a more complex page (with media). Sorry, but that's unusable to me.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It won’t work with modern apps in about 3 or 4 years, or even if it does, it’ll be so slow, it would practically be unusable.

Maybe on Android... my iPhone is 5 years old and works better now (faster, more features, more apps) than it did when it was brand new. It has a 6 core CPU with two of the cores running at 2.65Ghz (the other four cores are 1.8Ghz) - plenty fast enough and fully supported by all the latest software. Really the only thing I'm missing out on is 5G. And wireless charging doesn't have fancy magnets to hold it in place - oh well.

Upgrading to the latest model would give me the same number of CPU cores and about 20% higher clock speed and slightly more RAM - both barely noticeable. I would get a better camera - but I'm OK with this one for a bit longer.

I replaced the battery a few months ago, which was free - under warranty even after five years because Apple's extended warranty can be paid monthly and lasts until you stop paying (and gets cheaper, as your phone ages). The warranty even covers accidental damage (screen repairs, etc).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That iPhone has at least double the CPU power my Zenfone has. Plus more cache, I presume. If I had double the CPU power I currently have on that thing, I would probably still use it.

Upgrading to the latest model would give me the same number of CPU cores and about 20% higher clock speed and slightly more RAM - both barely noticeable. I would get a better camera - but I'm OK with this one for a bit longer.

See, that's the difference (one of them) between bying an iPhone and an Android phone. Android phones are usually a lot more powerful. I currently use a Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro. 8 cores, 2.0GHz per core, 8GB of RAM, 128GB storage, 4 cameras on the back. And all that for 300€. No iPhone has those specs at that price. Sure, support is shorter, but why people throw that kind of money on something like a phone is beyond me. Still, it's everyone's personal choice, and I guess Apple can put in a battery in their devices that will last, oh, 20 years, if they really wanted to, but for most regular Android phones, 10 years is more than enough.