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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Anything that has Utah being with California should be ignored.

California has a large Mormon community and Utah has a sizeable population that like having lots of fancy food, cheap imports, and money.

California splitting in half would make sense

No it wouldn't. Outside of a few particularly loud assholes, nobody actually wants to make it harder to travel up and down the West Coast.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the only split I could see in California is if New Texas reeeeeally wanted a pacific port

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even then, there is some deep seated hostility between California and Texas on multiple levels. Like, they're major internal economic rivals. They have state leaders that are constantly sniping at one another. There's a material cultural divide. About the only thing the two can agree on is how much they hate migrants. And that extends as much to internal migration (Dallas/Houston/Austinites hating all these new big money California techies / San Fransisco and LA hating the blond bumpkins and their hick habits) as to cross border.

New Texas will be lucky to keep its hands on El Paso, much less stretch itself all the way across New Mexico and Arizona into the Baja Peninsula. San Diego sure as fuck doesn't want anything that Texas is selling.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

New Texas would have a cartel run puppet government within a year. This is a deeply held belief I have. The oil money ghouls would never give up the ports and refineries. New Texas wouldn't have the strip of land going from Corpus Christi all the way to Port Arthur. It would all get seized by Saudi Arabia or a coalition of interests representing them, and that's including Corpus, Houston, Beaumont, and everything between. Various gulf monarchies already own huge stakes in all that land and oil of current real life Texas. They're not gonna give up some of their biggest ports in North America just because some bumpkins decided they wanted to play at being Stephen F. Austin.

New Texas immediately runs out of money, sells the state to the Sinaloas or Golfos or whoever else tosses money around. International oil committee seizes the southern coastline.