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As expected, Cannon is giving Trump what he wants.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

her credibility is going to be shot if she gets bitch slapped again by the higher court.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

She won't care. Not in the slightest.

She can only be removed through the same impeachment Donald Trump just skated through, twice. There's no chance that her job status will be affected in any way. And if Trump, or possibly any other Republican, gets into office, this trial is basically an audition for Clarence Thomas's seat on the SC. She'll have the unwavering support of a good chunk of the people in her area and probably a good 25-30% nationwide. If she does decide to step down at some point, the right-wing hate machine will have a bidding war for her as a consultant.

Sad but true fact: There's a very good chance that throwing the trial for Trump would set her up for life.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There's also a ~~very good~~ chance that Trump is not going to have much influence if he keeps racking up indictments, some of which he can't pardon even if he wins the election, which is also not a foregone conclusion. Why risk her career on a move that wouldn't actually matter in the end?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I agree but that's so far down the line and "the damage will have been done," by then so to speak.

The two big issues of this article are 1. Start time of the trial, which Cannon has agreed that mid-December (5 months from now!) is too early; and 2. That Trump can't get a fair trial while he's campaigning (Cannot didn't agree to this).

Let's say the trial doesn't start until after March when Trump is the obvious front runner for the RNC after Super Tuesday. His next ploy will be "I can't campaign enthusiastically while this trial is going on, so delay it," and Cannon may/may not allow it. Then heaven forbid Trump is elected president again, he will claim his position is now completely beyond reproach (there's another submission in this magazine to a video explaining that this is his stated goal) and so now he's exempt from being held accountable through this trial at all.

Even if this court case was wrapped up before November 2024, he's going to challenge any outcome that doesn't exonerate him. And yes, a higher court would comment about how this shouldn't have ever received the first delay and should have started in December 2023, but what all machinations have transpired in the background while that appeals trial is happening and being decided?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

yes yes and yes.

I'm only here to add: if he gets elected again he will absolutely 100% pardon himself. I figure if another Republican gets elected there is still a high probability of a pardon if only "so the country can heal" (or some such bullshit).

(Obviously only for federal cases)

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Trump would also 100% pardon himself for a state conviction and just dare the country to hold him accountable. If he gets that far, it would probably work.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

(Cool user name. I remember Karl Popper from my philosophy courses)

There's a certain catch 22 with presidential pardons though: the pardoned accepts their guilty verdict, they are just absolved of the legal punishment phase.

I don't think Trump could get over that first hurdle, though he is best characterized as playing both sides on anything that benefits him, so I'm sure he'll try.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

he would just lie and say that accepting a pardon from himself isn't admitting guilt, he had to do it for .

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