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I consider NACS a downside and will refuse to buy an EV with one. There is an actual standard and it should be used. I am sure there are updates in the future for the real standard that will fix problems that it has even though I personally haven't had any issues in regards to it.
There is no downside at all if you're buying new, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
On AC power, NACS supports a wider range of power input, allowing for more flexibility in certain commercial situations (277V) vs J1772 (240V).
On DC power, there's no regression from CCS1.
This transition has the potential to really suck for people with cars already with CCS since you might have to use an adapter if chargers near you swap CCS cables for NACS.
That's the problem, Tesla wanted their own shit and.is forcing it down other manufacturers throats because they have the most charging stations. This only affects america.because no one else allowed him to adopt his crap standard elsewhere. He could have worked with them and improved the existing standard and remained compatiblity, but instead decided "let's do another standard!".
I imagine Tesla will be the manufacturer for these and I cannot trust these lunatics with a fast moving machine that can kill me due to the charging port screwing up other devices in the car because of their shoddy manufacturing processes.
It really doesn’t matter. Tesla out-sold everyone, combined, and out-deployed everyone else’s fast chargers by stall count and almost by site-count. A standard doesn’t matter if nobody is really using it.
Multiple CEOs called out how unreliable the various CCS providers are and how stable the Supercharger network is. Tesla’s network is ranked substantially higher than any other US network for reliability, and is under much more use.
That’s all objective fact.
If you don’t like Tesla or Musk or whatever for political reasons, you are more than welcome to hold those views, but you haven’t provided an objective technical reason.
Trust a company where steering wheels fall off to make a product VS something used by millions already in multiple countries, including in the US, tough choice indeed.
The great thing about standards is they can be improved. Sure CCS has issues and I'm sure NACS does, we can only think so far ahead. Standards get revisions and improve over time. Making new ones results in fragmentation, confusion, adapters, and man kind fixing more standards than one.
Do note that you’re actually defending Tesla here if you want to use the steering wheel argument, which I suspect is not your intent.
Every major carmaker behind CCS has had more physical safety recalls (w/ higher %), and in a lot of cases, with more safety critical components (ie wheels, critical suspension components, various fire hazards)
And yes, standards can improve, they can also change. NACS is the standard and CCS is now effectively dead in the North American market. CHAdeMO was available much earlier than CCS and implemented by multiple manufacturers but there are very few people talking about that.
I implore you to rent a vehicle instead of speculating in the comments. CCS is a terrible connector.
There are recalls and there is factory testing. Musk doesn't believe in testing so they skip these checks. A standard car manufacturer catch manufacturing issues before it leaves their door.
My car uses CCS and I have not experienced anything so terrible. Standards are built better working together not separating and making your own shit.
NACS is a better standard. Existing standards are awful and there is in fact no 1 single standard
The name is North American Charging Standard, which is a stupid name, but because Tesla wanted to make their own for the US. You really want that guy running a standard?
There are not that many standards. Could've went with the most common one and worked with everyone to develop it further for the further good of everyone. Unfortunately this would've hurt his pathetic ego though.
Didn't Tesla give the NACS standard to SAE?
Believe so, I posted an article related to it recently, Ill try to find a link
The Title Was Exageratory though
I empathize, but that’s like boycotting word or acrobat.
I try to boycott those as much as well and luckily I can!
That's... an outdated analogy.
I have used neither of those products in over a decade.
Google Workspace (Gmail, Docs, Drive, etc) is a better office suite product than MS Office. It's also free for personal use.
Re Acrobat, Web browsers and operating systems ship built-in PDF readers these days. For the handful of PDFs that I don't open in Chrome, Apple Preview does a great job.
NACS is an SAE standard. It was announced last June:
https://www.sae.org/news/press-room/2023/06/sae-international-announces-standard-for-nacs-connector