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[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Nuclear is not renewable energy.

It’s not even green energy.

Renewables are the superior choice in price and effect.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s not a zero-sum game and we are in a climate emergency.

As I type this, wind is only making up 13% of grid demand, down from well over 50% last week - which means that gas generation is sitting at over 62% http://gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

Nuclear is a reasonable lower carbon way of serving base-load when wind/solar aren’t delivering . I just wish, as with all things climate-related, we had committed to this 30 years ago.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And renewables are quicker, cheaper, and lower footprint.

Its a no brainer. People need to let go of ‘50s nuclear romanticism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And once again - it's not a zero-game and we are in a climate emergency. Nuclear is a useful adjunct to renewables and some people need to let go of their 1970s nuclear doomerism.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But we don’t, there is zero benefit to building nuclear today over renewables.

And it’s not doom, it’s common sense. Renewables are better long term and quicker and cheaper to setup today, why take the worse option during an emergency?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

But we don’t, there is zero benefit to building nuclear today over renewables.

What are your practical proposals for generating 25 Gigawatts over a sustained period on a day like today when there is not much wind and negligable solar generation?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There needs to be a mix of sources, and unfortunately nuclear is the best way to provide a reliable source that can be ramped up or down instantly to plug gaps in supply from renewables.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ramping up nuclear is not instant and is not ideal because it causes more waste by altering the working lifetime of the fuel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Even then it's preferable to gas

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They should have been ramping it up 20 years ago. Short-termism fucks us again. Better late than never, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gas is not a renewable or green.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

... So what do you when there's no wind or sun?